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HEY! He can come to Iowa, I'll help him with his wedding here.

Must be noisy. lol

Whenever he is ready for it he will get married at the right Adam.

Happy that now he has this option

JAK here.....poor guy, if he wanted to....he'd have to contend with thousands of objections from cuckoo fans! It would have to be super secret...if not, can you imagine the uproar when the person administering the vows announced "if anyone here knows any reason why these two should not be joined in marriage, speak now or forever hold your peace."
The wailing and weeping would topple and wash away the wedding cake.

I'm afraid the protesters would overwhelm the teary eyed approving romantics. Sadly, too many feel they should have a say in his personal life.

As for me, I hope he finds his 'someone' and is as lucky and blessed as I have been.

I got a chuckle seeing old guy that holding the sign

10:29 here, reread my post. Just got back from vacation and I think its time to turn my brain back on :)

Adam is in this new Bonnie Mckee video.

http://www.justjared.com/2013/06/26/bonnie-mckees-star-studded-american-girl-premiere-watch-now/

@10:32 AM
HAHAH! that's a fun and funny video. Just the thing Adam would be part of. Thanx for the link.

Adam is for gays getting married but not necessarily for him. He has stated he doesn't want to marry and why would he give up his playboy Image. He wears it so well . The Dark Side

Adam is for gays getting married but not necessarily for him. He has stated he doesn't want to marry and why would he give up his playboy Image. He wears it so well . The Dark Side

Adam is for gays getting married but not necessarily for him. He has stated he doesn't want to marry and why would he give up his playboy Image. He wears it so well . The Dark Side

Cute & funny video! love to see Adam in it!!!

@11:27am. What century do you live in? It's 21st century. With advanced medical field, Adam's sperm is in high demand. I'll seregate his baby. I wished. Anyway five minutes stand won't hurt him either with the girl of his choice and he's got millions to choose from for five minutes.

@11:47, I'm surprised how lightly you seem to take offering up your uterus for Adam.

haha I don't know if adam would agree

very cute video with Adam in it and love Joan Rivers spunky part too.

@adamlambert: Check out .@BonnieMcKee'a new smash! And look for me in this video!

http://t.co/wIIvqhbfV2

Bonnie's video is fine, nothing special, but I'm very happy to see Adam in it with other big names. That's the important thing. Adam will get married if he wants to someday. Nothing says he has to just because it may be legal. Just like straight people. You can, but you don't have to.

DRG

I don't like that guy using Adam's name in his sign as if Adam shall plunge into that state. He should know if he is a fan but sure he is not.

Thanks for the American Girl video, that is awesome Adam is in it. Everybody will get to see him!! WHOA!
He is making his way in, slowly, but surely.
Have to go back and watch for the 20th time..

NKlovesAdam

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@1:45 p,m

Lighten up.

@FairfieldOrl: Adam Lambert @ Universal Orlando's Summer Concert Series this Saturday! We are just 1 mile from the concert! @FairfieldOrl #adamlambert

@MuchMusic: She writes for big artists and now she's in the spotlight, check out @BonnieMcKee's star-studded video:

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#AmericanGirl

Things are moving along in the right direction. I'm so glad for Adam-and for all humanity when options and rights are open to all. I remember Adam responding to an interviewer's question regarding marrying some day---He noted that the possibility wasn't even in his consciousness because of his orientation. I felt so sad listening to his response and I hope all of this exclusionary thinking will continue to be obsolete for him and generations to come. It diminishes all of us when anyone is left outside- looking in the window. It's not about Adam marrying--WHO, WHERE or WHEN. It's that he CAN-if he chooses, like anyone else!!!!!

Adam, everyone loves you!

Finally!!!:)

Everyone is happy todayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!:)


Congratulations and we hope the whole country will go along with it!!:)


Canadian

I also hope that in the future Adam finds someone he can share his life with on a permanent basis. I just think he is having too much fun socializing and being with friends and is not even thinking about marriage. And JAK, you are so right that there would be thousands of objections from cuckoo fans he would have to contend with if he decided to marry any time soon. Just remember all the crazies and their comments when he was with Sauli and when they broke up. I think Adam has to be more settled in his career and then find someone compatible to the lifestyle of a music celeb and all that goes with it.

My goodness gracious!!:) Adam is still young and someday when he is ready then he will decide!!:)


He is enjoying being free and especially his career.....

Let him be and just be happy that his country is moving forward!!:)


Canadian

LOL is a hotel advertising here now?

@RollingStone

President Obama, Adam Lambert, Leonardo DiCaprio and more take to Twitter to show support for the #DOMA strike-down:

rol.st/14xHpMh

11:56am - 26 Jun 13

I love that all these articles feature Adams name and pic at the beginning.

http://broadwayworld.com/article/Adam-Lambert-More-React-to-Supreme-Court-Ruling-on-Gay-Marriage-20130626#

It's a very sad day for Christians.
Satan still rules this world, but God rules the heavens.

@5:17 PM How come you're here and not in heaven?

I'm a Christian and I'm happy. Andrew Sullivan is a Christian and he's happy. Andrew Cuomo is Catholic and he pushed SSM through the New York legislature and he looked happy when it happened. Cuomo passed it wth the help of a couple of Republicans, both Christians (one was Catholic) and they looked happy, too.

You're talking to the wrong Christians

@washingtonpost: Church bells rang in D.C. today.

http://t.co/Ax8lCe8Pw6

#DOMA #Prop8

@negativeneil: and yet again, bigot tears always taste the sweetest. Why is that?! #doma

You have the wrong idea of what a Christian is. It's someone who follows Christ. Example the 10 commandments.All religions don't necessary fall under this umbrella.

@ 5:37, stupid I would have to die first to be in heaven.

People on twitter PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RT this tweet from Rolling Stone:

http://rol.st/14xHpMh

Don't write it as a tweet. Click on Retweet symbol and RT it. Please again!

Adam now has the right to marry in CA when and if he decides to do so. That's all that matters! It seems I am seeing Adam's name everywhere! We went to the Jersey Shore and I looked up to see Adam's Restaurant! We're eating here I said!haha
nancdruuu2

Holy Shit!!!!:) I'm a Christian too!!:)

But I'm for EQUALITY!!:)


Love and Acceptance rulesssssssssssss not the religion!!:)

People hate each other because of these F****** beliefs!!

Canadian

Hey @Canadian, you go girl!

I don't h8 anyone. I love you all. God is love, and I love God. I love Adam and all his fans. My religion is God first. If you hate me for that, then I am sorry.

I dont like the idea of that man using Adams name on his sign either. As if he's been planning on marrying and cant. Uncool

Adam will have to find a partner who chooses to live in his world, than live without him in theirs.

Hating anyone and trying to restrain the natural rights of others, is not in the least bit Christian to me. Two people who love each other no matter if they or gay or straight should have the right to be together, and have the same rights. We all pay taxes ect.,if you are straight and married you have the right to claim tax exemption's, make decisions when a love one is ill and cannot.straight people have the right to bury their spouse, and the right to still live in the house they lived in together. Gay people in big part were denied these rights in some states so glad to see hopefully now in more and more states hopefully they will have more of the same rights. I feel in most all cases people are born gay, something cannot help as Adam has said unlike popular beliefs its not a choice to be gay at all. I very proud of Adam and happy for this day. I also liked the song the vid. Was cute mainly for me because Adam was in it. Sue

Adam Lambert will marry a lesbian and ride off on Purple dinosaurs.

when you can sleep with bi, straight, gay and lesbian, why the hell get married???? AL don't want that institution.

@ 7:01 Of course Adam will find someone who accepts his world. What else would he do. I don't think Adam is interested in a partner yet. When he does, he will not be looking for a straight person. There are many people in Adams world, he just has to come across the one that he will fit into his career lifestyle. That won't be too hard, writers, or people who can travel when he does. He should fall in love with his manager, whoever that will be, loads of professionals do.

Christ said that no homosexual or fornicator would enter his kingdom. Straight people who have sex not married, won't enter the kingdom of heaven. Homosexual having sex, won't enter the kingdom. Sex out of wedlock is a no no absolutely not!

Christ said that no homosexual or fornicator would enter his kingdom. Straight people who have sex not married, won't enter the kingdom of heaven. Homosexual having sex, won't enter the kingdom. Sex out of wedlock is a no no absolutely not!

Adam agrees that same sex should be able to marry, but I think the whole idea of it is too complicated for him. Why get married, when you have your freedom to do what you like. By the way, I am against same sex marriage, but still love you all. I have my freedom to do what I like too, so do you all. Peace.

@Canadian
You got that right!


NKlovesAdam

@7:20 You are not quite right about some people not entering heaven, you certainly will, if you repent. Mary Magdeline the man who was crucified with Jesus. They both repented, and were assured of getting to heaven. Adam gives out his whole heart of love to people, He needs to turn around and receive all of Gods love for him.

@7:20

Times change and if he came down again he may be retracting that statement.

NKlovesAdam

Perhaps we should let God decide whether gay people should zoom straight into hell; no need to try to help God do His work, He is absolutely capable of doing His job and with great finesse. Does not need any help at all. lol! By the way hell to my mind is not a confined place with a boundary and I think most of us know that.
There is a Bible reading where a perceived bad, loose woman was about to be stoned by a group of holier-than-thou group of mostly Christians. And Jesus said to them: Anyone of you here who has never sinned, cast the first stone. No one did according to the Bible. And I see Adam sort of mirrors this situation; the only difference is many have cast lots of stones already. God says: "When I was hungry, you fed me; naked, and you clothed me; I was a stranger and you welcomed me."
I wonder if God would say: I was gay and you 'stoned' me. Now before you jump as some of you are very fond of doing...the "I" and "me" pronouns do not refer to God per se at all! Read the Last Judgement if you wish to. To me, God is Love and in the same breath, God is infinite Mercy.

Lam-my

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Never.

Gay people want to get married for the exact same reasons straight people do. Some of the reasons are traditional, based on love and commitment. Some of the reasons may be less noble, like getting someone into the country, strictly financial reasons, and many others. Gay or straight, people get married for many reasons. It doesn't have anything to do with religion. As much as we'd like to think so, marriages are not all noble and pure, loved-based and romantic. Gays should be able to get married for the same reasons as straights do, no matter what the reasons are. It's just plain fair.

Kudos to Adam for doing his part to promote equality and just plain human kindness. That to me is what religion should teach, IMO.

DRG

Adam will in my opinion go down in the history books as a kind of revolutionist but as I've always said, the best part of it all is he is just going about doing what he loves. Most revolutionists proclaim their mission very prominently and forcefully but Adam simply walks in those huge boots, proclaiming his 'mission' with just a song and a smile. lol! This is what intrigues me because it seems so revolutionary yet it's just about doing what one loves and the rest takes care of itself. And doing what one loves does not include hurting other people intentionally or even at times not on purpose because harm is still done in the latter instance.

Lam-my

This is from Wikipedia (throwing in another opinion for good measure)

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The Bible refers to sexual practices that may be called "homosexual" in today's world, but the original language texts of the Bible do not refer explicitly to homosexuality as a sexual orientation. The Bible is interpreted by officials in some denominations as condemning the practice. In the twentieth and twenty-first centuries, however, the extent to which the Bible mentions the subject and whether or not it is condemned, has become the subject of debate.
Passages in the Old Testament book Leviticus that prohibit "lying with mankind as with womankind" and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah have historically been interpreted as condemning homosexual acts, as have several Pauline passages. Other interpreters, however, maintain that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality, saying that historical context suggests other interpretations or that rare or unusual words in the passages may not be referring to homosexuality. In Religion Dispatches magazine, Candace Chellew-Hodge argues that the six or so verses that are often cited to condemn LGBT people are referring instead to "abusive sex". She states that the Bible has no condemnation for "loving, committed, gay and lesbian relationships" and that Jesus was silent on the subject.[1]

A tutorial by JAK feel free to scroll on by........... OT.....but relevant.......This ruling of the Supreme Court has to do with the Constitution which is not a religious document. Therefore has nothing to do with God's laws...
It is a common misunderstanding that this country was established as a Christian country and much is said about our 7 main founding fathers. Who were they?
James Madison is known as the Father of the Constitution.
Quote by Madison...."Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.
Ecclesiastical establishments (churches) tend to create ignorance and corruption all of which facilitates the execution of mischievous projects."
John Adams ...quote..."this would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religions in it.
Thomas Jefferson....quote ..."I have recently been examining all the known superstitutions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstitution (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
Geo. Washington...quote..."religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those that spring from any other cause."
Ben Franklin...quote..."The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason....Lighthouses are more useful than churches."
Thomas Paine...quote..."Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind tyranny of religion is the worst."
John Jay was the only founder who professed to be a Christian.....and he as Secretary of Foreign Affairs argued (unsuccessfully) to have Catholics forbidden from holding office in this country.

The Constitution is based on the law of the land, not on any religion and everyone should have protection under that law....believer and non believer. It's the law!

2;23 "It diminishes all of us when anyone is left outside- looking in the window."

It's better anyone of us is diminished as long as it is not God.

5:17 "Satan still rules this world, but God rules the heavens."

The world has always been Satan's kingdom why Jesus said He is not of this world and we should not be attached to what this world (Satan) has to offer for our true home is to be with God in Heaven.

5:37 "How come you're here and not in heaven?"

I agree with 6:13, simply stupid!

7:16 "when you can sleep with bi, straight, gay and lesbian, why the hell get married???? AL don't want that institution."

Totally agree with you!

7;19 "Christ said that no homosexual or fornicator would enter his kingdom."

There was no mention of homosexuality in the New Testament, so Christ never mentioned it. it was only in the Old Testament.

7:31 "you certainly will, if you repent."

Yes, for the grace of salvation has been given to all mankind with Jesus redeeming our sins. But what is required to have this grace to be saved is repentance before leaving this world.

7:34 NKlovesAdam - "Times change and if he came down again he may be retracting that statement."

God was, is and always will be. God has NEVER changed. What is sin before is still sin today no matter how time and people have changed.

7:40 Lammy - "no need to try to help God do His work, He is absolutely capable of doing His job and with great finesse. Does not need any help at all. lol!"

We all have a duty to lead each one to Heaven, our true home to be with God. It's why we are commanded to love our neighbor even our enemies. Jesus showed us how when He was on the cross - to pray for them and ask God's mercy for their forgiveness for we do not know what we do.

Lammy - "There is a Bible reading where a perceived bad, loose woman was about to be stoned by a group of holier-than-thou group of mostly Christians."

There were no Christians then in biblical times, only Jews.

Lammy - God says: "When I was hungry, you fed me; naked, and you clothed me; I was a stranger and you welcomed me."

It was not God but His son Who is both divine and human.

8:13 "Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Never."

Yes, you are so right.

DRG 8:18 "Gays should be able to get married for the same reasons as straights do, no matter what the reasons are."

The main reason for marriage is procreation. And the very definition of marriage in the bible and our laws is between a man and a woman.
I'm all for everyone's right for the pursuit of happiness. But marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Let the LGBT couple have all the federal benefits of any married couple in their civil union, not marriage.

God looks only at the heart in judging us, whatever is our intention and motivation. And we should always acknowledge our sinfulness and ask forgiveness, repent, amend our lives and reconcile ourselves with our Creator and try to walk in His Presence to glorify HIm.

JAK,

The founding fathers were Freemasons and the Washington DC zoning is based on Masonic plan.
USA is founded on Masonry, not Christianity.

@11:32,....JAK here...Yes I know that, but I figured my lecture was a bit too long to go into Freemasonry and the explanation of Age of Enlightenment and Deist's beliefs.
As everyone knows I'm much too 'wordy'. : )

@ 11:28....JAK here....I agree completely that God looks only at the heart in judging us, our intentions and motivations.
I also believe that he is the only one qualified to judge us.
Therefore we alone determine our destiny and ultimate connection with God. No one on earth today is qualified to see into our heart and make a decision as to our worthiness.

In the beginning God said "be fruitful and multiply." We've done that to the point that there are more people than there is food and water for....I think God would say "enough already."

Christ does not mention homosexuality in New Testament.

Sodomy was condemned in the Old Testament when soldiers of opposing armies would go out onto battlefields to show contempt for their fallen enemies and rape them to shame them before killing them. It was not a sign of homosexual love but a form of torture.

Do any of you people who preach the bible bother to read it? Do you understand what you are reading? Or do you just parrot what ministers tell you which may or may not be fact? PK. (aka - preacher's kid).

11:28
When I was hungry, you fed me; naked, and you clothed me; I was a stranger and you welcomed me. Please refer to Matthew's Gospel regarding the Last Judgement; it is a direct reference to how God will judge us when we die; not referring to Jesus in this context at all, as claimed by you. Matthew explains in this context, to those who do not understand or not aware that whatever good or bad they do to other people, it is as good as doing it to God, because God is in everyone of us. Matthew goes on to reiterate this point: Whatever you do unto the least of Me, you do it to Me/God. You should check more thoroughly before you decide on your own conclusion.
Also, I'm aware as stated in the Bible, Jesus is Man with the Divinity of God and came to save mankind; no need to state that for me.
Regarding, we need to help others to lead them towards the right path; yes I think in our small or big ways we should do that; but what I was specifically referring to, due to the comments in context...that homosexuality is a sin and gays will go to hell; that prompted me to say, perhaps leave this to God to decide who should go to hell or not and that He did not need help in this judgemental aspect and not as you interpret it to be not needing to help other people to God through prayers and good works. You need to delve more into what people say in relation to the tone and aspects of the surrounding context, instead of dealing with the issues on your own terms.

Lam-my

11:28
You are addressing so many commenters all at one go on many issues. I think you need to use a pen-name as a sign of respect to others.

Lam-my

11:28: Congrats on a very selective representation of the bible, which you obviously know well.

You seem to be an intelligent person so, without getting into the myriad ways in which the bible contradicts itself, I think we can all safely assume that you know that it does.

More to the point: it was successfully argued to the court that, since a lot of couples marry with no intent to have children, and many marry past child-bearing age, marry is not expressly confined to procreators and has never been, in practice or in law.

FYI - people were procreating for centuries before marriage became an institution. Marriage is a creation of the state and it developed in response to a real need by the wealthy/propertied classes to have an orderly disposition of joint properties in the event of spousal death. It is this marriage that SCOTUS is talking about: the right of all couples to a civil contract that provides the same set of economic ties and benefits to all citizens, as encoded in the law of the land.

I think you must also be familiar with the words of Jesus: "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's" These wise words mark the beginning of a tradition of thought that extends all the way to the US Founding Fathers, who framed a constitution in which there is a clear separation of church and state.

Your truly,

A Catholic fan of Adam

@Anon 11:28 PM:
Your comment: "The main reason for marriage is procreation".

My reply to your comment re "The main reason for marriage...........":

I've been married to my husband for many years. We married because 1. We love each other and 2. We wanted to set up a household together. We met, we fell in love...the next logical step was marriage. No problem. We didn't have to even think about it.. Because it was what two heterosexual people did at that point in time, at least amongst our friends and relatives... And because we wished to take our commitment to each other to the next level: to make it "official"..

We eventually decided we would like to have children. Things didn't go exactly as planned. Several years later, we adopted our beautiful son, who is now grown (Adam's age..). We have two lovely granddaughters. They are our family, we all love each other. We don't think of our son as "our adopted son": He is our son, and has been since we first laid eyes on him at 3 days old. Families come in all configurations. Ours is but one of many. So are you telling me that, under that definition of marriage, (ie Marriage is for procreation), that we should not have married, or should have divorced, because we did not have biological children? I realize that you are not actually implying that, but technically speaking, that's what the procreation aspect of the marriage "meme" would suggest. Marriage is a legal contract between two people. AND, for most, a commitment of hearts and souls. Back in the days of the Bible, it was NOT necessarily just one man and one woman, but one man and multiple women. Times change. We now have a much better understanding of gay or lesbian or bi-sexual, or transgender. Gay is not a choice. Neither is being heterosexual. We are who we are. If two people love each other: man & woman, man and man, woman and woman..., who are any of us to say they should not marry, ie Commit to each other. And live as a family unit with all the protections and rights that my husband and I have had all these years. I live in Washington state, where we were among the first to recognize "civil unions" and then thankfully, last year we took it to that next level and passed our Marriage Equality bill. I helped make phone calls to encourage people to consider the bill, and also to remind them to vote, regardless of whether they voted yes or no. You can imagine how many times I heard people say "Well, the law says marriage is between one man and one woman.." as if the (then) existing law, whether fair and equitable or not, is the final answer. Laws can be changed. Sometimes the law SHOULD be changed. In the US, we used to have laws that allowed slavery, that allowed a human being to "own" another human being, we had "separate but equal.." which actually was't equal at all; laws which outlawed marriages between different races. We had laws that denied women the right to vote. We had laws that for all intents and purposes made women and children property of the husband and father. Those laws were found to be flawed, to be discriminatory, or worse. And they were changed. We as a nation are working toward marriage equality for all. It seems to me that a law designed to strengthen family bonds, ALL family bonds, would be yet another logical and progressive step for our society.

Struth! This topic has produced a lot of dialogue. Why marry in this day and age when so many marriages end in divorce and the fall-out is often terrible and especially if there are children involved. However, I think everyone is entitled to equal opportunity and that includes marriage. Having said that, I don't believe in same sex couples having children and I suppose I've opened another can of worms by saying that but I think children deserve a mother and a father, whether or not the mother and father stay together.

6:11 - Baloney. A Christian is a follower of Christ. Period.

Being a Christian is like being a Glambert. All you need to be one is to say you are one. People who run around labelling you according to their own definitions are full of shit.

The 10 commandments were handed down to Moses by God, not Jesus. Some say that Jesus "did away" with the ten commandments; or that his differed fromm the original ten. Check it out:

http://www.bible.ca/7-keep-command.htm

The US is nor FOUNDED on Masonry.I am not disputing an influence but FOUNDING?

No matter what organizations your Founding Fathers belonged to, America and it's constitution is rooted in the traditions of western democracy, dating back to Greece, and the Enlightenment.

Of course the Founding Fathers wanted to separate church and state. Remember Henry VIII? He turned England into a "change your-religion-every-coronation-day" mass of civil wars. Religion became a preoccupation of the state with tragic results.

The Puritans came to America to get away from that. The Founding Fathers wanted to avoid anything similar happening again.

"The main reason for marriage is procreation". ????

How many more people does this planet need?

Wow, who would have thought that coming onto an Adam Lambert blogsite would also provide us with history and Bible lessons. This gay rights ruling has certainly opened up many avenues of discussion. And that is a good thing. it may be confusing to many and even horrible to others, but the times are a changing and it is good to see that Adam has had some small role in what has been happening in today's society in regard to a greater acceptance of different sexual orientations.

I would guess that some gay couple DO get married in order to have children, either my adoption or surrogate or foster children, or whatever. They want to get married and then have a family, just like most straight couples do. The desire to have children isn't restricted just to straight people. Gay couple can be as good parents and straights couples can. And it's obvious beyond a doubt that plenty of straight people are NOT very good parents. Just because you can biologically have children doesn't necessarily mean you'll be a good parent. Procreation is only one of many reasons that a couple may want to marry.

Being an Adam fan is like going to college. You learn a lot and you sharpen your debating skills. ALL GOOD!

DRG

@11:28 PM - - "there were no Christians during Biblical times, only Jews"? I think you are forgetting Gentiles, Islamists, Hindus, Egyptians, Paganists, Idolators Ammonites, Romans and Greeks and their Gods - all in that small area of the world.


@ 6:01

You are right, many areas of discussion have been opened up. It's probably good for us.

4:08 AM, well said.

This country was founded on the separation of church and state. A marriage license is issued by the government. A marriage does not need to be held in and blessed by a Christian church, or any other religion, to be a legal and valid marriage. It is only legal and valid with the license. Civil unions cannot provide the same level of rights that are bestowed with a marriage license.

As for the children issue, studies find that children of same sex marriages are as happy and healthy as children of heterosexual marriages.
http://www.asanet.org/press/asa_files_amicus_brief_in_same-sex_marriage_cases.cfm
http://www.freedomtomarry.org/page/-/files/pdfs/SPSSIPsychologicalSocialOutcomesforChildren.pdf

An historic day for sure. The Bible bashes will come out the woodwork but as noted here many 'Christians' are acceptive of equality. How dare anyone/government dictate how a person can live their lives and whom they can love. Really think about that if that applied to your life and just how you would feel living with such persecution.
Adam should be proud today because he has laid stepping stones in educating so many people through his work and example. Sooo proud of him.

Of course Adam will want to marry one day but I see it in the distance future. Darn he has a lot of livin to do first.

Please have some respect for people who attend church and live by the Bible, they are not all bigots or hateful towards gay people and they do have a right to their own believes. It's true a gay marriage can take place out-side the church, but from a christian point of view the marriage would not be recognised by God. However, there are a number of different versions from which different opinions can be formed from Bible passages. The main thing is not to refer to anyone as a bigot, it's important that we all avoid conflict and learn to love and respect everyone for who they are no matter what their orientation is. To now refer to people who happen to go to church as bigots or Bible bashers is simply stirring up hatred in it's self, instead tolerance and understanding should be the order of the day.

Please have some respect for people who attend church and live by the Bible, they are not all bigots or hateful towards gay people and they do have a right to their own believes. It's true a gay marriage can take place out-side the church, but from a christian point of view the marriage would not be recognised by God. However, there are a number of different versions from which different opinions can be formed from Bible passages. The main thing is not to refer to anyone as a bigot, it's important that we all avoid conflict and learn to love and respect everyone for who they are no matter what their orientation is. To now refer to people who happen to go to church as bigots or Bible bashers is simply stirring up hatred in it's self, instead tolerance and understanding should be the order of the day.

I have gone to church all my life and will till my last day on earth. I believe there are good people in church and plenty of bigots as well. Though I am a believer in our creator and Jesus I do not believe the bible is a holy book. I believe it is a loose collection of stories and fables and downright wrong interpreters over the centuries. When you study bible history there were so many bibles. The bible before the King James Version was quite different, when the Catholics were out of favor in England. When a Catholic King regained the throne, new Catholic interpreters were called in and the bible was rewritten in almost a poetic way. It is quite the most beautiful language bible, but accurate, not really, as the finding of the Dead Sea scrolls proved. Therefore there are dozens of bibles in print. Each time it was interpreted by the men writing it, that 's why there are only 4 gospels included. The gospels of others were left out because they differed from Matthew,Mark,Luke and John's stories, all of which were written long after Jesus was crucified.
It's a story book, it was not written by God or Jesus, just men, for their own time and to fortify their own beliefs. So realize your church and your minister or priest or you yourself don't have all the facts. Be tolerant and patient and kind and maybe some day the entire true story will be revealed to us in heaven, hopefully.

9:14, you do have rights to your own beliefs but you cannot impose them on me. Marriage is also a legal construct. All people should have access to that. You are welcome to refuse to have the ceremony performed in your church and to not have the marriage recognized by your church. It would still be a legal marriage in the eyes of the state and federal government. You can't take away someone's constitutional rights based on your religion.

@ 7:17 am

Marriage licenses are issued by county clerk of your state, federal government is not involved.

I just re-read 7:17 and she/he says government, not Federal government. The county clerk is an agent of the state/government.

2:34 - 11:36 is correct in clearing up the statement written by 7:17. When people read that the government did such and such, they assume it was the Federal Government. Hat's off to you 11:36 you are smarter than the average bear.

Thanks, but no big deal, I just got out my marriage license and read it! Then I kissed it and put it back in the safe. It's precious to me.

This is 7:17 back and I did not specify which government. I know in my state it is the County that issues the license but I did not know if that is true in every state. There are also City governments and State governments. Assuming someone means Federal government when County, City and State levels of government also exist is not wise.

I do not understand the point of pointing out the license is not issued by the Federal government. State and Federal rights come with the license issued by the County (in my state). Separation of church and state exists at all the levels of government I just mentioned. So I don't get their point.

Lammy 1:46 - "it is a direct reference to how God will judge us when we die; not referring to Jesus in this context at all,"

The Eternal Father has given the judging to His Son.
Jesus' First Coming at His Incarnation, He came as the Messiah, our Saviour.
But on His Second Coming, it is THE Son Who will come as The Judge, not God the Father.

@6:40 - " "there were no Christians during Biblical times, only Jews"? I think you are forgetting Gentiles, Islamists, Hindus, Egyptians, Paganists, Idolators Ammonites, Romans and Greeks and their Gods - all in that small area of the world."

It is because of the context of Lammy's comment:
""There is a Bible reading where a perceived bad, loose woman was about to be stoned by a group of holier-than-thou group of mostly Christians."

I was referring only to the crowd who were following Jesus to whom He was addressing about the woman they want to be stoned.

9:01
Okay, I think we may be interpreting the Last Judgement on two different terms. I was referring to our individual last judgement at our death. I'm not as interested about his Second Coming; don't know when. lol! Not making fun just saying what is on my mind. As far as my last judgement is concerned, it can happen anytime and as long as I have Jesus in my soul, that is all that counts; I'm not saying I will zoom straight into Heaven which by the way is not a place in the usual sense; but hope to get close enough to touch the face of God and perhaps serve some 'years' in purgatory to purify my soul before St Peter will allow me through the Gates. St Peter standing at the Gates hopefully will tick my checklist, tick, tick, tick in all the boxes. lol!
And even if the Job of Judging as explained in the Bible, pointed out by you, is given to the Son by the Father; to me they are one and the same as expressed in the Holy Trinity, three persons in one God...God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit one and the same God...That's how I conceptualise it. You seem to interpret it as 3 distinct entities. Perhaps you may be more of a Bible theorist, absolutely nothing wrong if that's how you wish to interpret our religion but my approach is more of a pragmatist. I think of what I can do now to hopefully be able to touch the face of God at my last judgement. Not going to wait for his Second Coming when Jesus will come as a King and put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left...Matthew/Last Judgement.

Lam-my

The wonderful news turned into... yet another thread where - after reading most of the comments- all joy has gone...

There is something so often said and used here to shoo off people: This is AL NEWS 24/7 and the interpretations of bible and other religious battles could be done better elsewhere.... Somehow I think the Lamberts would agree, :)))

Adam has an open, curious mind and might be interested in other people's religions; he might read this thread if he chances upon it. A whole lot better than those insipid repetitions.

Lam-my

@2.05am
so true.

@lam-my
If Adam has an interest in other peoples religious beliefs, them he should not have to come to an Adam fan site to find them out, and neither should we.

HK fan
I didn't say Adam would specifically come to this site to find out about religion. I said if he chanced to come upon this thread he might give it a read. In any case, I was just responding to the questions on religion hurled in my direction; I'm not particularly interested arguing over religion. I think you might not have the time or interest to follow the whole trend of thought of this thread and just jump in at the end, probably to get some attention. If you follow this thread, I was mostly responding to someone addressing me. And I usually respond when my name is mentioned; otherwise I am not so inclined to.
HK fan, you have misinterpreted my comments many times already and I've told you before I do not appreciate that. Talk to people who are more in line with your insipid comments. Hoping this will be the last time!!

Lam-my

@lam-my
I have read the whole thread, and I stick by what I said.
This is an Adam Lambert fan site not a religious fanatics fan site.

I don't mind people having long discussions on topics that are Adam related i.e problems faced by the LGTBQ community, new laws that are passed relating to that, the beard, clothes, performing etc etc. Even who his new boyfriend could be (even if I don't agree!)

But religion has nothing to do with Adam and shouldn't be discussed here.

Lammy,

Last Judgment is referenced always and only to Jesus' Second Coming when He would come as The Judge to separate the sheep from the goat.
It never referred to the end of one's life here on earth and the destination of the soul because there's still the atonement needed to purify the soul.
God the Father and the Son are One but it is the Son Who came and lived among us thus will come again on Judgement Day to judge us.

@HK fan

So agree with your posts, also in other threads around here...it's getting a wee bit weird in some of these threads... phew!
Take care, gurl!
2:05

HK fan
Well, I've said I was mostly responding to statements/questions addressed directly to me. So what you are saying I should just keep mum and simply not respond? It is just courtesy to respond to someone talking to me and also it concerns my religion. This is indeed an Adam site and he wouldn't mind one wee bit if we talked about anything under the sun but I try as far as possible to keep within the scope of the topic/ thread. As I've said I was just responding to things addressed to me. I did not start it. This indeed is an Adam site but you don't embrace the spirit of Adam at all! Adam has emphasised that we should do the things we want not necessary to do things only pertaining to him or what he does! Precisely, he wants people to be free-minded and not confined-minded. Anyway, since we seldom agree on anything at all, just don't address anything to me from now on; that way we won't waste time arguing over insipid matters. You can carry on to approve/disapprove anything you see fit/unfit for this Adam site. Not interested at all.

Lam-my

11:35
I've already said I'm more a pragmatist when it comes to my religion; meaning I adapt the teachings to what is pertinent to the present life rather than wait for Jesus' Second Coming. Perhaps he might have come already many times over, we just don't recognise it. And we can view the Bible with slight, different interpretations but the core values must be intact centred around love, compassion, forgiveness, acceptance rendering help to people around or some even go far from home to do this...through Jesus' love.

Lam-my

There goes @Lam-my again. Don't be so combative gurl. It's not becoming.

@lam-my

So what you are saying I should just keep mum and simply not respond? It is just courtesy to respond to someone talking to me and also it concerns my religion. This is indeed an Adam site and he wouldn't mind one wee bit if we talked about anything under the sun but I try as far as possible to keep within the scope of the topic/ thread.

Yes sometimes, when the topic is not Adam related, it would be perfectly acceptable not to respond.
And the topic of this thread was the fact that Adam can now get married in California if he so chooses.....so nothing to do with religion, so you and many others weren't keeping to the topic.

I do many things 'not pertaining' to Adam...but I do them away from this site, where they're supposed to be.

And I haven't said I approve or disapprove of your points of view, just that religious discussions/preaching etc do not belong on here.


@12.25am
Thanks:)

Sludge


Not for you to judge
Need to put an end to the sludge
Is that asking too much...


Lam-my

HK fan
Quite a long time ago, I remember this particular commenter took whole chunks of info regarding how successful Hong Kong is; stating the economic status, banking and education systems, security measures, etc. and it occupied a large portion of the thread which was supposed to be about Adam, nothing to do with the status of Hong Kong as a city. You didn't say it was off topic; not only that you added that it has the most billionaires in the world in response to a comment. That half of the thread was totally off topic. I didn't barge in nor say it was off topic because I do believe sometimes when people chit-chat which we mostly do here, it can veer off. In fact this may be perhaps the first time that I've responded so much regarding my religion...and had to be told off!! And whoa! whoa! Who are you to dictate what I should or should not respond to!! This is getting really high-handed!! Also you think same sex marriage has nothing to with religion? Think again! my dear. Reminder: Please do not address anything to me from now on...we basically don't see eye to eye about anything!

Lam-my

@lam-my

I know same sex marriage has nothing to do with religion. but whatever.....each to their own.

And I do remember mentioning HK, and Bali, and possibly a few other places, fairly sure it was when Adam was visiting those places, so kinda loosely on topic:)

I don't understand why you always get so defensive and aggressive when someone disagrees with you,
I wasn't 'telling you off', we're not in kindergarden here, again I just asked you, and all the other commenters to leave the religious aspects off the site, as this isn't the place.

But if you decide you want to carry on with the religious lessons, then fine, do what you have to. I'll just scroll by and ignore, which I often try and do, but sometimes when the thread gets as ridiculous as this one has,I may lapse and put in my 2 cents worth again.

HK fan
Whatever...Just don't address anything to me; we have never even remotely agreed on anything so it's a sheer waste of time arguing something so insipid to me. Telling people to "leave the religious aspect off the site" just because you don't think religion has a connection to same sex marriage; which I vehemently disagree, is I think, just as "aggressive and defensive" on your part. This is the third time I'm telling you; please register. I'm not delving into any "religious lessons". I was merely responding to issues directed to my name. In fact, discussing religion is not my cup of tea. But it's my habit to reply to anyone who addresses issues to me. There's a saying: You can see the splinter in your brother's eye yet you can't see the beam in your own.

Lam-my

When I started working 'for real' after my studies I remember my first boss giving us advice what subjects we should avoid with our possible clients... 'Be very careful or if possible avoid talking about politics, religion and/or sex...

I still think that was a very good piece of advice, cause these subjects can be difficult to talk about even with people you know well...

To talk about politics or religion on a AL FAN SITE, where you have people from various countries and of many different 'origins' is (imo) a bit inconsiderate and unnecessary...and can be done elsewhere. However, trying to avoid talking about SEX on an AL fan site... that would be just stupid and - at least for me - totally impossible... LOL!!!

HK fan Lam-my will push and push because no one can have the last say except for her. She has done this to several people here now. Ignore her. She is a troll in my eyes. This site would be better off without her. She needs to take some classes in compassion because that gene is missing LOL.

Hmm I see that dimwit/pseudo rears its ugly head again. Always waiting for an opportunity to hop on someone's bandwagon to take a potshot; but the shots always go awry. This same dimwit/pseudo also takes plenty of potshots at Adam and has been labelled a resident troll. lol! Is it not boring to always have to wait and scheme for that opportunity? And you have used the same line of attack for 2 years, stalking me; and what you say that I must have the last word is not true. I'll be the first to apologise if the need arises. Talking about the lack of a gene; well, you probably need an overhaul / a complete change of your genome. lol!

Lam-my

LOL, Lammy. You are a liar for saying "I'll be the first to apologise if the need arises." No way you do.
What you do is, you never fail to justify, justify, justify even how twisted you are in doing so as long as you have the last word.
Absolutely true, religion is not your cup of tea because you don't have compassion but rather always sow confusion, never go for harmony but a sure fire troublemaker.
Why not adapt the teachings of Jesus? You may learn to be a better 'neighbor'. LOL!

Hey, dimwit-pseudo, so did you get the complete genome overhaul I advised you to? Looks like you did...you were half human, half troll before, right? Could the geneticist have made an error? Now you seem to have evolved...hmm let's see, more like half troll, half snake, whoa! whoa! oooh-la-la. But I guess it's okay, quite compatible with your left-over human characteristics since both these lovely creatures enjoy spewing venom like you enjoy doing so much. lol!
Also thank goodness, you are not able to hop onto my bandwagon like you so easily do on others...Ahh you know why...mine is a too-toot train soon to be upgraded to a bullet train. lol! Oh but you can still try to hop on; only, run the risk of being rolled over! Like what is happening now. Ooooh, you might need another major overhaul of your entire genome...now it's all flattened. lol! Hope it turns out better this time. Try getting the best geneticist for better results. Hmm this sounds rather like the start of a thriller story. lol! My latest one was about the phantom whistler. Let's see...this upcoming one, perhaps...Hanging By The Hair Of My Chinny-chin-chin. Wow, sounds exciting already. lol!

Lam-my

LOL Lam-my you are talking to at least 2 different people here. I was one but not the other poster. You really have issues. Practice what you preach. You've blown it here. You need to go. You are C R A Z Y!!

It does not interest me at all whether it's one or two! Makes no difference. After 2 years of stalking me and you still have no guts to reveal yourself, I wonder who is more crazy! As I've always said: If the cap fits, wear it; otherwise vamoose! And I don't need to preach because: " I will show you!" - Adam's quote which I like a lot. lol!

Lam-my

@8.08pm
thanks for the support.

HK fan

Lam-my is a burden I've learned to live with. A more opinionated, know it all, I have to get the last word in pest, has never existed on this thread. She is rude and always insists she is right and clairvoyant when it comes to Adam.
How many times do we hear "I wrote about that a year ago in a poem, etc, etc,". Thank god she has let up on haiku for awhile. It was driving me crazy. Which of course means she will probably write one just for me as punishment!!!!
What a tiresome person. -o-

No haiku, not when you think that's what I should or should not do. Thank you dear Jesus, for the strength and well, a teeny-weeny bit of clairvoyance to fend off low self-esteemed people who just have no grip nor a clear direction of their own lives and therefore the need to meddle into others' and try to silence them. Because people with a strong voice exacerbate their inadequacies and insecurities. Talking about clairvoyance...I commented that Adam would open the LifeBall Show with the declaration "Open Sesame!" And bull's-eye, did he not? Wearing that gem-studded cloak, looking so shimmering and oooh-la-la handsome. Now that you brought up about clairvoyance, it reminded me of it. But much of it was based on logic and intuition. lol!

Lam-my

Lammy is the resident evil troublemaker and she is the paranoid one covering her very own complexes and hang ups with obnoxious superiority complex and the nerve of her to call on Jesus!
Blasphemous indeed!

Hey hey the gang is here
Never mind the weather
We're altogether
Hey hey the gang is here
We're altogether now lol!

Gotcha! Not one of my poems...sing it if you know the song. lol!

Lam-my