Oh for God's sake will you guys quit saying how freaking great every picture of Adam is. He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are. If that's the case - good luck with that.
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION thats what Adam is all about. People who pose as being fans of Adam get the hell off of this site, all you want to do is stir up trouble. Stop trying to tell Adam what he can and cannot do. He is the first one to tell you "IT AIN'T THAT DEEP" ADAM DON'T EVER STOP BEING YOU, LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. LOVE DIVERSITY, THIS WORLD WOULD BE SO BORING IF EVERYONE HAS TO BE THE SAME. - Adamlover-
Nobody is murdering Adam's career. He's doing just fine with all of his diverse and crazy fans. Speak out, just give the rest of us our opinions, too. He is smart and amazing and will prevail!! I love him for the brave and wonderful soul that he is.
7:43, let me get this straight (no pun intended). You're saying that Adam should avoid being pictured with anyone who's: -- non-Caucasian -- non-heterosexual -- creative with makeup -- dressed to party
And this type of exclusionism is supposed to help him GAIN fans? You might have a point if Adam were pictured hanging out with serial killers, rapists, and child abusers, but otherwise? Eh - sorry, no. No buying it.
The real Adam (what we see now) isn't anything like what he portrayed on Idol. Back then, he was being careful to not be voted off. Now, I think he just has to be himself, even if it means getting "voted off" which I highly doubt will happen.
I can see why the tweens go for Beiber. I'm just trying to think back (WAY back haha) to my feelings as a young teen. The girls could daydream about going out with him and maybe a kiss. They would probably not imagine their little dream guy having the sexually aggressive moves and wearing over-the-top makeup and hanging out with trannies. The boys would be hesitant to buy that album cover or show their friends these glitter pictures until they became comfortable with their own sexuality. The tween market has huge buying power but I don't think Adam would be willing (to his credit) to tone it down for them. So everyone has to stop griping about the success of Beiber. Both will be highly successful.(Even tho Adam is the only one with real talent)
Anon 7:43am Its your kind of thinking that makes our young children who are questioning their sexuality and or gender to have bad feelings about themselves and/or not being able to talk to someone about it. Children need to know that its ok to be who they are and if they are feeling bad about themselves for being different that they can go to an adult to sort out their feelings regardless if it has to do with their sexuality, gender identity or just not fitting in with the popular crowd. Adam speaks volumes by being proud of who he is and not apologizing for it, and having friends who are special and different and come from all walks of life. Hope to see more open minded people who can reach out to our children and show by example and speaking out against those who want you to feel bad and ugly about being different. Sorry for the rant but closed minded people upset me to no end. I also can't believe that someone so closed minded is a fan of Adams. -Adamlover-
Wait, hold the phone! Sex in one form or another has always been the hallmark of a superstar. If they did not hook us with their own brand of sexuality, then they were not great or well loved. So WTF is wrong with who and what Adam is. I say nothing!!!
these are his friends. nobody picks you peoples friends. leave him alone and let him be. my god what a bunch of losers you people are. live and let live and leave adam alone.
Heavy sigh...but not gonna take the bait. I will say 'though that knowing Jonte is (or hoping Jonte is) living his life in the way that makes him feel most comfortable in his own skin, and happy, content, fulfilled, AT EASE - makes me in turn happy, more than I can say (Ramone too). And actually, I expect to enjoy watching, in the role of fan, Adam Lambert do the same thing professionally for many years to come, and personally as well for only as much as he allows the public to glimpse that part of his life. MGF
As Adam has said many times don't matter your age, color , creed or gender we can all fucking party together...too bad that message hasn't reached all his fans. I figured everyone got the picture when he sang Micheal Jacksons' Black or White on AI
i agree with 2:57. absolutely correct. that's the way he lives his life. live and let live. his motto and mine. he's georgous, talented, cute, a good son and most all his fans agree he's a keeper. lol
"...you thought an angel swept you off your feet...well..." !! The adorable nature of the real Adam has been right in front of you all along. If you don't like it, you don't GET him and what are you doing here?????
I cannot believe how hypocritical some of you people are. You say you're all for open-mindedness, accepting of differences in people, etc, etc. But the second someone has an opinion different than yours or the slightest criticism of Adam(even if it's constructive!) you can't tolerate it. So it's ok to be different and have different opinions but only on YOUR terms, is that it? The person that posted at 7:43 was only pointing out something that he or she thought might hurt Adam. I think it is wonderful that Adam is so open and honest about who he is, but there are many people who don't feel that way. I think a LOT of Adam's fans have greatly underestimated the number of fans and potential fans that he lost with the AMA performance. It is their tragic loss in my opinion. He's one of the best singers to come along in years. But, the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there. Please don't get angry at someone for pointing it out.
I seriously doubt Adam hanging with trannies will end his career. He's been hanging with trannies before Idol and still continues. After the AMA performance he did a interview and he said his music is not for everyone and if it isn't sorry move the fuck on, and the same should be said as his personal life. Who he hangs with is not taking food from my table or making me lose a ounce of sleep. Some responses have made it about race ,and if anon 7:43 has a problem with it being black trannies instead of just trannies, then he or she will fall over if they were to watch A.L b-day party ending in lobby. I recall a black male giving Adam a kiss/peck on the lips
Well Anon 4:06, maybe it's that 7:43's comments were so, less than constructive and rather gross and offensive, that people who visit here couldn't let it go. People here are pretty darn tolerant and accepting, and not only willing to listen to, but actually interested in all sorts of opinions and points of view, but 7:43's comments sort of seem to go so much against Adam Lambert's whole deal that maybe it was hard for people to not comment. They might not have been jumping on someone with just a different opinion, any old person with just a differing opinion, but rather jumping on someone who had a fairly shitty thing to say, there's a difference! (Going to have to continue on an additional comment posting)
(@4:06 continued) And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not only tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
@4:06 cont'd: And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not only tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
Sorry for the negativity but it just blows me away that there are still some who do not LISTEN to Adam - in this case, that he has always known he will not appeal to everyone, expects that to be the case and is not going to adjust himself a whole bunch just to please and sell albums. That is the very thing that makes him so unforgettable, inspiring and unique. There are a lot of guy singers with pretty eyes, thick, shiny hair, cute hips, a great voice and come hither looks. If that is what consitutes fan worship, you are missing the best part - his honesty and courage and the way he stands up to what at times must be a mountain, of scarey hated. I melt to his voice, stop dead in my tracks at his smile but it is that gutsy courage that stays with me everyday when my life seems tough. You REALLY don't want him to be any different or change a single thing...do ya?? And by the way, I do not post here without giving my name and I never will.
been having trouble getting the second half of my comment through to 4:06, cont'd from 5:57, will try again: And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not only tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
cont'd @ 4:06 from 5:57: And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not just tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
Why is everyone getting so excited about the picture of Adam with these guys? Adam has had his picture taken (smiling and hugging) with every age and type of person under the sun!
cont'd from 5:57 to 4:06: And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here, generally speaking, are not just tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you, maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's IMO, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinion differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of it now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did, then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self, you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't know shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a screw you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness. (I wrote this all as one on the 5:57 above originally, split it up but still hasn't been going through)
I am 7:43. I said that because Trans have the highest rate of HIV & AIDS and I wouldn't want poor BB to trip land on someones' dick and years from now see him blotchy, sickly and close to death. Condoms BB Condoms. signed a Corncerned Fan
7:43 - I think he knows the risks of the world as it is, more poignantly that we can even imagine. Too bad you didn't first express the concern over what sounded like distain. Would you like an a dose of insult everytime you get behind the wheel of a big, bad car that could kill you???? I know I'm going to read my posts tomorrow and feel so mean (and wonder why I got so drunk) but, DAMN!! That is one smart, savy, tough young man you are dumping unsolicited advice on. Is that really what he needs from the Peanut Gallery????
Bullshit, 7:43 (excuse my French). You did not make that comment for fear that Adam does not know about condoms. So lucky, being a gay man who is almost 30, that he has you to fill him in on these issues. How can anyone take someone seriously who can't spell "corncerned" or "concerend". Adam is probably concerned about you falling off the illiterate wagon and reaching an early demise.
Wow...missed a lot today...just have to say...WTF!!??...and I don't usually talk like that....All that from one picture of three friends sharing a moment...So sad...and thanks to @coloforadam and others...Honestly, Adam is the special man and entertainer that he is because of WHO he is...he has been in the theater biz for years, the gay community for years as well, knows many people in LA and these are just two friends of his...thats pretty much it...I'm glad he got to spend time with them...He has very diverse interesting friends that he has met over the years..Its not like Adam just fell of of a turnip truck into the big world...he is smart and knows who his true friends are...and he should not have to to dump them just because they don't fit into someone's idea of who might be "pc" and acceptable to the masses..Its okay to express an opinion and concern for him because we all do...but it helps to be rather nice about it..and @11:04 am..."Only in America the over zealous cougars have managed to chase away the young fans..." comment: didn't we just have that discussion awhile back??? Honestly, it just makes me tired...And what that has to do with the discussion is beyond me...I'll be glad when Suz gets her vids up from Manilla...Because really what this site is supposed to be about is supporting our favorite rising superstar and not telling him who he should or shouldn't hang out with or criticizing part of his very supportive fan base...Its one thing to disagree, its another thing to be bigoted and mean....just sayin'..and @8:35pm, you will be gone from here shortly I'm guessing.
Wow. Where'd all the love go this week? Something's in the air, not just on 24/7 but everywhere. Usually I'd ignore all of this but want to comment, for what it's worth. First of all, I whole-heartedly agree with everything the poster at 5:57(etc) had to say. It really makes you lose a little hope for society when people comment with such hatred, and sometimes it's hard to turn a blind eye.
It's not that the people on this site come down on anyone with a differing opinion, If I had to guess, I'd say they are just as baffled & disgusted as I am at the people that spew hatred, intolerance, and shallow nonsense on a forum dedicated to a person who stands for/sends out a message of LOVE and compassion for the living!
These people are a contradiction of themselves. They call themselves Adam Lambert fans, and in the same breath say who he shouldn't be hanging out with, who he should be fucking, how he should look, how he should talk, and it just goes on and on. Pfft, the thought of human beings staying so closed off in their own little land is almost humorous to me.
I wouldn't respect Adam as much as I do if he EVER decided to water himself down to an American Idol-approved image. He'd be lying to us all. His continued authenticity & perpetual optimism in the face of opposition in itself is worthy of a Mad World-esque standing ovation.
You're damn straight he posts these things on purpose, it weeds out the people who just don't GET THE MESSAGE. The fact is, the REAL him makes a lot of people uncomfortable. They don't see the person, they see the "(gasp!)gay guy from AI" with killer talent who stands for something they refuse to comprehend and completely disagree with.
It's 2010 and the US is a beautiful melting pot of diversity where people are finally beginning to embrace the beauty of DIFFERENCES. Adam's success to date is proof that he doesn't need to conform to the likes of a tiny fraction of superficial, intolerant people to become an iconic figure in pop culture. Something tells me he didn't get HERE by luck of the draw.
I'm fully aware that there will ALWAYS be people who are intolerant to anything that is different from what dwells inside their bubble, and for those, I'd say Adam isn't your cup of tea. So instead of waiting on him to morph into the next Justin Timberlake, why not move on & maybe turn your 'impeccable social skills' towards something a little more productive for humanity?
PassionN2010, this is the poster at 4:06. I'm the one that 5:57 directed most of his or her vitriol. At first I was supportive of the poster at 7:43, but after reading 5:57's "sermon" to me, I realized 7:43's post was rather nasty and probably not meant to be helpful to Adam. I admit that now, but there is one thing I will not back down from, and it is that you can still be a fan of someone and not agree with every career move they make. It doesn't make someone less of a fan.
If an artist truly doesn't care what people think of their art, and they are expressing themselves for their own satisfaction only, then great. More power to them. But if an artist wants to make a living selling their art, then they have to care a little bit about what the general public wants. They might have to compromise a bit. They have to find a place where they are still being true to their artistic vision, and yet still be marketable. I've heard Adam say something like this in interviews. Should he change himself to "PACIFY" all the closeminded idiots out there? No! But if he wants a successful career, he might have to compromise just a little. That's all I'm saying. I want Adam to be around for a long time. Like I said earlier, I thing he is the best talent to come around in years. I just want him to succeed. Is that so aweful?
How come you don't mind when you see a photo of Cheeks and Adam in drags. I don't like that Brad boy too much. Tried to accuse 50 cent was a homophobe. I've liked 50 cent way before Adam and I was really impressed how he cleared that attack in a very zen way. :)
I know I shouldn't be be bothering to respond to 8:35 but I just really need to say "On his lips, those are not herpes, those are freckles!!!" Seems like you know him really well
I do agree with the comments of Adam being really brave, etc., but I think he has reached a point in his life where he is just really comfortable in his own skin. In the RS interview, he said he doesn't really think twice about being gay and that it just feels normal to him. In younger years, he probably had to build up courage, but I think now he is not feeling the need for this as much. This is a big inspiration to everyone who wonders if they'll be accepted, which is pretty much all of us! I find the older I get, the less I worry about what others think of me.
Ha ha ha "it's not like Adam just fell off a turnip truck into the big world" - laughing so hard at that. I'm going to be using turnip truck now for various conversations, thanks glitzlady 1:49 am
What's the difference between compromise & conformity? Are we to expect ADAM to live in a straight world for the sake of his career as they would have him live .. that is .. tone down on the gay-ness? Thusly .. do not go to parties if there are 'questionable' people there even though ADAM has been living openly gay most of his adult life? Put him in a 'box' .. making sure his 'lifestyle' doesn't 'offend' the mainstream and 'sure .. we'll buy his music .. play it on the radio .. go to his concerts ... BUT ... only if he 'behaves' himself' .. is that it? Right here I have to use a word that covers what I'm thinking without being 'offensive' ... GLAMSHIT!!! Has no one listened to the words of ADAM's song "AFTERMATH"? Those lyrics say it all .. WANNA SCREAM OUT ... NO MORE HIDING ... DON'T BE AFRAID OF WHAT'S INSIDE!!! I just want ADAM to be WHO "HE" is comfortable BEING!! WHY does everyone want to CHANGE him?? AND if ADAM did change ... would HE be able to accept himself?? ADAM is happy ... LEAVE HIM ALONE!! One more thing ... do we sleep with everyone that we associate with? Then why assume that ADAM does??
tess4ADAM: YOU SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY. MY VIEW EXACTLY. WELL SAID, THESE PEOPLE SPOUTING INNUENDOS ABOUT ADAM SHOULD CEASE AND DESIST, MY GOD IT IS HIS LIFE TO LIVE THE WAY HE WANTS NOT THE WAY WE SAY HE SHOULD. SOUNDS LIKE SOME BIBLE THUMPING TO ME. YOU GO ADAM!!!
Here’s my peace, and it’s going to be long-winded. I'm glad you noticed that the overall tone of 7:43 wasn't meant to be helpful to Adam. Fair enough, we're all human. I don't think anyone insinuated that we should all look at this "fandom" through rose-colored glasses and agree with every move Adam makes...that's pretty ridiculous, don't you think? I'll leave that kind of ass-kissing to someone else. I never claimed to agree with everything he's done "career-wise" myself. Yet, shockingly enough, you don't see me on here spreading hate with uneducated, intolerant word vomit either (ref- 7:43’s comments). Honestly? Where have you been? He's said it a gazillion times in interview after interview. He “said it” with the absence of an apology for his AMA performance. He'd love to make everyone happy, but he's not going to do it by changing the very fiber of who he is inside, and he’s made it very clear. He’s self-assured, aggressive, provocative, theatrical, and gay with a touch of androgyny. He embraces all of those “controversial” things about himself so passionately that he allows us all to SEE it, every bit of it, while continuously verbalizing a message of LOVE, understanding, and tolerance. All of this is beyond commendable, inspiring, and even life/perception altering to those whose lives he touches on a deeper level. And people still wonder why his die-hard fans are so passionate. We simply see the HUMAN BEING, in all his bravery, and attempt to keep the needless politics at bay while paying the LOVE forward. Thus we have the great divide between the fans of the music, and the fans of the PERSON AND THE MUSIC. The people that speak with such disregard due to political bullshit are indeed NOT Adam Lambert fans, they are fans of the music, and that's just fine! But they have to accept it’s only about the music for them, and stop trying to fix THE PERSON, as if he’s some robot that can be programmed. Why continue to beat the dead horse of politics? It’s at the very core of his message, for me, and I’d say quite a few others as well; embrace the person and their character, not the politics surrounding the person. IMHO it’d be intensely more gratifying to have built a ridiculously passionate & loyal fan base while staying true to myself, then to watered-down myself into something more universally appealing. Can you imagine what it would be like mentally and emotionally? To be out, working yourself into exhaustion, performing month after month while hidden beneath a false image of yourself, for audiences whose majority would probably completely turn on you the moment they saw you posed with a few friends? For me, all I can think is…what a blanket of insecurity I would live beneath, constantly feeling belittled and judged and locked in a vault of uncertainty. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, and it’s cruel for anyone to expect someone else to live their life that way. Adam appears to be a very HAPPY, successful person by being himself. The PERSON he is-in partnership with the talent he possesses creates the magic that can and DOES hold the attention of millions of people. The fans of the PERSON simply embrace what makes him happy. It doesn’t mean we all agree with everything he does, just means our gratitude and LOVE are completely unconditional. Why would he ever want to or need to change that? These fans you speak of that Adam lost post-AMA's are such a small minority that they may as well have been invisible in regards to marketability. HE continues to climb the charts, adorned in heavy glitter and every color of the rainbow, just as gay as he was from the day of his Idol audition, and people ADORE HIM for it! And that’s thanks to his hard work, integrity, and authenticity. -PassionN2010
Wow narrow minds are everywhere. First of all, Adam, has said over and over he is not a Tranny. Second not all Trannies are gay, third - what is wrong with his Tranny fans showing their love? It is just fashion and fun - CHILL!!! Those who deep down wish Adam would stop being gay really need to realize he isn't going to change who he is.
I think Adam did try to avoid the gay label on Idol. He wore jeans, dark jackets, suits, etc. He did not wear heavy makeup or rhinestones on his eyes until the voting was over and did not cover his hair and body with glitter or wear clothes like he has on tour. He wore no makeup at all to the audition. He even pretended to be on a date with a girl (Danielle) walking arm in arm.
Everyone keeps saying let Adam be who he is, but EVEN ADAM didn't let himself be himself and cut loose until his own concerts started.
@9.13 he didn't try and hide himself on Idol, that was a totally different kind of performing to his own concert. He could hardly wear rhinstones and heavy makeup for 'Tracks of my tears". He pushed the boundaries on Idol further than any other Idol has ever done. As to not wearing makeup to the audition, that was his everyday look, if you look at photos of him he wears either no, or very little make up when not performing. He never pretended to be on a date with a girl either, Danielle is one of his best friends and has been for many years, they often went out together.
Adam toned it down on Idol because he knew he had to. He did not go to the audition wearing the top hat and fur collar glittery coat. The audition and all of the Hollywood elimination rounds were "performances" where he wore jeans and a basic t shirt and so were all the TV shows.
They WERE pretending to be on a "date" with Danielle having her arm tucked into his, which they don't usually do.
Anyway, none of this matters because people love "the real him" and the rest is history....
Seriously! Whoever you are that said Adam will be more hurt by being around Trannies than by being gay!! Do you hear yourself? Who the hell are you to say that? Adam accepts everyone and being around a certain type of person, or associating himself with a particular group of people does not in any way harm his career. He's very sure of who he is and he knows exactly what he's doing. He's living HIS life! Maybe you should get one of your own and stop PRETENDING to be Adam's fan!! You are a closed minded idiot who needs to get the hell outta here!! Don't eer change for ANYONE Adam!! OI love you for who you are and I will forever be your real fan!! Sandi Shader
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Love these crazy outfits and accessories in this picture! Love people who push fashion to the extreme. Fashion is just for fun!
Red hair (and I DO mean red) and silver eyebrows...hmmm, will have to try that look sometime. Ha, ha! :)
- Adam Fix
What a great picture. Love their outfits.
Yeah, but check the photo below (Adam says goodbye to Tokyo). Now, that's a pic that can sell millions of CDs!
Oh for God's sake will you guys quit saying how freaking great every picture of Adam is. He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are. If that's the case - good luck with that.
Anon 7:43 AM, this is Anon 7:37
That's exactly the purpose of my previous post referring you guys to the OTHER pic. 24/7 is not helping by posting.
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION thats what Adam is all about. People who pose as being fans of Adam get the hell off of this site, all you want to do is stir up trouble. Stop trying to tell Adam what he can and cannot do. He is the first one to tell you "IT AIN'T THAT DEEP" ADAM DON'T EVER STOP BEING YOU, LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. LOVE DIVERSITY, THIS WORLD WOULD BE SO BORING IF EVERYONE HAS TO BE THE SAME.
- Adamlover-
Quit your preaching you freak. It's YOU - that type of fan - who is murdering his career.
More photos like this won't do any harm. I like, this could be from disco era. Jonte looks like a fun guy to hang out with.
Nobody is murdering Adam's career. He's doing just fine with all of his diverse and crazy fans.
Speak out, just give the rest of us our opinions, too. He is smart and amazing and will prevail!! I love him for the brave and wonderful soul that he is.
7:43, let me get this straight (no pun intended). You're saying that Adam should avoid being pictured with anyone who's:
-- non-Caucasian
-- non-heterosexual
-- creative with makeup
-- dressed to party
And this type of exclusionism is supposed to help him GAIN fans? You might have a point if Adam were pictured hanging out with serial killers, rapists, and child abusers, but otherwise? Eh - sorry, no. No buying it.
Glamberts are not sharing Adam, because they think they own him. I wonder if Elvis had such fans. Las Vegas must have been like a prison made to him.
Oh, his chest!!!! He is so hot!!!!
The real Adam (what we see now) isn't anything like what he portrayed on Idol. Back then, he
was being careful to not be voted off.
Now, I think he just has to be himself, even if it
means getting "voted off" which I highly doubt will happen.
I can see why the tweens go for Beiber. I'm just
trying to think back (WAY back haha) to my feelings as a young teen. The girls could daydream about going out with him and maybe a kiss. They would probably not imagine their little dream guy having the sexually aggressive moves and wearing over-the-top makeup and hanging out with trannies. The boys would be hesitant to buy that album cover or show their friends these glitter pictures until they
became comfortable with their own sexuality.
The tween market has huge buying power but I don't think Adam would be willing (to his credit) to tone it down for them. So everyone has to stop griping about the success of Beiber.
Both will be highly successful.(Even tho Adam is
the only one with real talent)
Anon 7:43am Its your kind of thinking that makes our young children who are questioning their sexuality and or gender to have bad feelings about themselves and/or not being able to talk to someone about it. Children need to know that its ok to be who they are and if they are feeling bad about themselves for being different that they can go to an adult to sort out their feelings regardless if it has to do with their sexuality, gender identity or just not fitting in with the popular crowd. Adam speaks volumes by being proud of who he is and not apologizing for it, and having friends who are special and different and come from all walks of life. Hope to see more open minded people who can reach out to our children and show by example and speaking out against those who want you to feel bad and ugly about being different. Sorry for the rant but closed minded people upset me to no end. I also can't believe that someone so closed minded is a fan of Adams.
-Adamlover-
Only in America the over jealous cougars have managed to chase away the young fans, but outside US Adam still has younger fans.
Wait, hold the phone! Sex in one form or another has always been the hallmark of a superstar. If they did not hook us with their own brand of sexuality, then they were not great or well loved. So WTF is wrong with who and what Adam is. I say nothing!!!
Ohhhhhh, Shitty, Shitty Bang, Bang again!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these are his friends. nobody picks you peoples friends. leave him alone and let him be. my god what a bunch of losers you people are. live and let live and leave adam alone.
Heavy sigh...but not gonna take the bait.
I will say 'though that knowing Jonte is (or hoping Jonte is) living his life in the way that makes him feel most comfortable in his own skin, and happy, content, fulfilled, AT EASE - makes me in turn happy, more than I can say (Ramone too). And actually, I expect to enjoy watching, in the role of fan, Adam Lambert do the same thing professionally for many years to come, and personally as well for only as much as he allows the public to glimpse that part of his life.
MGF
As Adam has said many times don't matter your age, color , creed or gender we can all fucking party together...too bad that message hasn't reached all his fans. I figured everyone got the picture when he sang Micheal Jacksons' Black or White on AI
i agree with 2:57. absolutely correct. that's the way he lives his life. live and let live. his motto and mine. he's georgous, talented, cute, a good son and most all his fans agree he's a keeper. lol
"...you thought an angel swept you off your feet...well..." !! The adorable nature of the real Adam has been right in front of you all along. If you don't like it, you don't GET him and what are you doing here?????
I cannot believe how hypocritical some of you people are. You say you're all for open-mindedness, accepting of differences in people, etc, etc. But the second someone has an opinion different than yours or the slightest criticism of Adam(even if it's constructive!) you can't tolerate it. So it's ok to be different and have different opinions but only on YOUR terms, is that it? The person that posted at 7:43 was only pointing out something that he or she thought might hurt Adam. I think it is wonderful that Adam is so open and honest about who he is, but there are many people who don't feel that way. I think a LOT of Adam's fans have greatly underestimated the number of fans and potential fans that he lost with the AMA performance. It is their tragic loss in my opinion. He's one of the best singers to come along in years. But, the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there. Please don't get angry at someone for pointing it out.
I seriously doubt Adam hanging with trannies will end his career. He's been hanging with trannies before Idol and still continues. After the AMA performance he did a interview and he said his music is not for everyone and if it isn't sorry move the fuck on, and the same should be said as his personal life. Who he hangs with is not taking food from my table or making me lose a ounce of sleep. Some responses have made it about race ,and if anon 7:43 has a problem with it being black trannies instead of just trannies, then he or she will fall over if they were to watch A.L b-day party ending in lobby. I recall a black male giving Adam a kiss/peck on the lips
to 11:40 am, "shitty, bang bang" - I don't understand this - please clarify who you are shooting (if this is the bang, bang?)
This site is unfortunately becoming a place where
no discussion is allowed, ho hum, I'm going elsewhere.. and leave you all to pant about the GB.
I agree 100% with 10:36 am.
Well Anon 4:06, maybe it's that 7:43's comments were so, less than constructive and rather gross and offensive, that people who visit here couldn't let it go. People here are pretty darn tolerant and accepting, and not only willing to listen to, but actually interested in all sorts of opinions and points of view, but 7:43's comments sort of seem to go so much against Adam Lambert's whole deal that maybe it was hard for people to not comment. They might not have been jumping on someone with just a different opinion, any old person with just a differing opinion, but rather jumping on someone who had a fairly shitty thing to say, there's a difference! (Going to have to continue on an additional comment posting)
(@4:06 continued) And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not only tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
@4:06 cont'd: And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not only tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
Sorry for the negativity but it just blows me away that there are still some who do not LISTEN to Adam - in this case, that he has always known he will not appeal to everyone, expects that to be the case and is not going to adjust himself a whole bunch just to please and sell albums. That is the very thing that makes him so unforgettable, inspiring and unique. There are a lot of guy singers with pretty eyes, thick, shiny hair, cute hips, a great voice and come hither looks. If that is what consitutes fan worship, you are missing the best part - his honesty and courage and the way he stands up to what at times must be a mountain, of scarey hated. I melt to his voice, stop dead in my tracks at his smile but it is that gutsy courage that stays with me everyday when my life seems tough. You REALLY don't want him to be any different or change a single thing...do ya?? And by the way, I do not post here without giving my name and I never will.
been having trouble getting the second half of my comment through to 4:06, cont'd from 5:57, will try again:
And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not only tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
cont'd @ 4:06 from 5:57:
And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here generally speaking are not just tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you - maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinino differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of that now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did - "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self - you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a fuck you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness.
Why is everyone getting so excited about the
picture of Adam with these guys? Adam has had his picture taken (smiling and hugging) with every age and type of person under the sun!
coloforadam 6:10 Wonderful post. AMEN!!
Wow, looks like I missed a real shit-storm.
Phew...(wipes sweat from my brow).
Adam is Adam, and will always be Adam...THANK GOD!
cont'd from 5:57 to 4:06: And since I'm so irritated right now, I'm going to go one step further and say that it is precisely for this sort of reason that I actually think Adam Lambert specifically makes sure he puts out and allows out images like this, very purposefully, as a little reminder to certain fans about a big part of what he's about; and if not, if I'm reading too much into that, if he doesn't do that purposefully, I think he effing should! He is probably so much more interested in Jonte & Ramone's world than mine or a large number of anyone's posting here, and that's fine by me, great by me, whatever, he's still an amazing entertainer and has so much great stuff to offer us. People here, generally speaking, are not just tolerant of things on THEIR OWN terms, to paraphrase you, they are not intolerant of constructive criticism, to paraphrase you, maybe sometimes they just can't take the, oh I don't know, total grossness of a comment like 7:43's lovely "He needs to steer very clear of all of these transvestites. This will kill him way more than being gay will. Actually, I have a (sick) feeling that Adam wants to go trannie - just look at all the pics of him and who some of his pals are..." Your post was so effing disingenuous it was worse than 7:43's IMO, if you're even different than the 7:43 poster. How's that for an opinion differing from yours, you can take my opinion of your post and go be tolerant of it now, and not hypocritical and take it in willingly. I think a lot of posters here like discussion, spirited discussion, and it's great that you and 7:43 and others are concerned for the longevity of Adam Lambert's career, but he seems to have made a lot of clear cut decisions in that department, and sometimes if a person is going to go out on that limb and say something like 7:43 did, then they have to, as you indicate, be willing to hear other posters opinions back about such a controversial and adversarial comment; you're almost contradicting your own self, you must be tolerant of other posters who are going to take to task the likes of a comment like that, you need to not be hypocritical yourself and ACCEPT the ensuing discussion that potentially arises from a hot comment like that one. I'm really sorry to everyone to be so ugly, I'm cracking like Adam Lambert w/ that pap, so sorry to turn the thread so ugly, but damn that just pissed me off. You say 4:06 that "the sad fact is that there are ignorant folks out there...", so what, Adam Lambert is supposed to PLAY TO THEM, pacify them?? I don't know the dude, but I'm thinking that aint gonna happen, have you followed Adam Lambert at all? I don't know shit about the guy, but it doesn't seem to me like he's going to throw away a piece of what he stands for just to boost his cd sales and career, he's going to play the game because he's fucking smart, and good for him, but I'm not so sure he's going to alter his way of existing in this world to suit those among us who play to their most base selves and lesser angels... to paraphrase you, please don't get angry at someone for pointing that out. I'm not going to be angry in about 5 minutes or so, but right now, no tag to end this post, just a screw you. Very sorry other readers for the ugliness. (I wrote this all as one on the 5:57 above originally, split it up but still hasn't been going through)
I am 7:43. I said that because Trans have the highest rate of HIV & AIDS and I wouldn't want poor BB to trip land on someones' dick and years from now see him blotchy, sickly and close to death. Condoms BB Condoms. signed a Corncerned Fan
7:43 again.... I didn't mean anything racist against the trans. again signed by a Concerend Fan
7:43 - I think he knows the risks of the world as it is, more poignantly that we can even imagine. Too bad you didn't first express the concern over what sounded like distain. Would you like an a dose of insult everytime you get behind the wheel of a big, bad car that could kill you???? I know I'm going to read my posts tomorrow and feel so mean (and wonder why I got so drunk) but, DAMN!! That is one smart, savy, tough young man you are dumping unsolicited advice on. Is that really what he needs from the Peanut Gallery????
"to trip land on someones'..." omg 7:43!!!
Don't want to laugh, but can't help it!
Don't make me sorry I took up for you at 4:06!!!!
To 5:57, this is 4:06. Relax, take a breath. I'm sorry I ticked you off!! You are right, 7:43 could have expressed his or her concern in kinder terms.
They all look great. Some people need to chill.
Bullshit, 7:43 (excuse my French). You did not make
that comment for fear that Adam does not know about
condoms. So lucky, being a gay man who is almost 30, that he has you to fill him in on these
issues. How can anyone take someone seriously who can't spell "corncerned" or "concerend". Adam is probably concerned about you falling off the illiterate wagon and reaching an early demise.
C'mon, coloforadam, don't hold back. Tell us how
you really feel! haha Love ya and totally agree
Admins please delete 8:35. 7:43 seems to have invited unwelcomed trollers to this site
Just wondering why 8:35 is trolling on this site.
Please don't give this freak the benefit of a response
Wow...missed a lot today...just have to say...WTF!!??...and I don't usually talk like that....All that from one picture of three friends sharing a moment...So sad...and thanks to @coloforadam and others...Honestly, Adam is the special man and entertainer that he is because of WHO he is...he has been in the theater biz for years, the gay community for years as well, knows many people in LA and these are just two friends of his...thats pretty much it...I'm glad he got to spend time with them...He has very diverse interesting friends that he has met over the years..Its not like Adam just fell of of a turnip truck into the big world...he is smart and knows who his true friends are...and he should not have to to dump them just because they don't fit into someone's idea of who might be "pc" and acceptable to the masses..Its okay to express an opinion and concern for him because we all do...but it helps to be rather nice about it..and @11:04 am..."Only in America the over zealous cougars have managed to chase away the young fans..." comment: didn't we just have that discussion awhile back??? Honestly, it just makes me tired...And what that has to do with the discussion is beyond me...I'll be glad when Suz gets her vids up from Manilla...Because really what this site is supposed to be about is supporting our favorite rising superstar and not telling him who he should or shouldn't hang out with or criticizing part of his very supportive fan base...Its one thing to disagree, its another thing to be bigoted and mean....just sayin'..and @8:35pm, you will be gone from here shortly I'm guessing.
Wow. Where'd all the love go this week? Something's in the air, not just on 24/7 but everywhere. Usually I'd ignore all of this but want to comment, for what it's worth. First of all, I whole-heartedly agree with everything the poster at 5:57(etc) had to say. It really makes you lose a little hope for society when people comment with such hatred, and sometimes it's hard to turn a blind eye.
It's not that the people on this site come down on anyone with a differing opinion, If I had to guess, I'd say they are just as baffled & disgusted as I am at the people that spew hatred, intolerance, and shallow nonsense on a forum dedicated to a person who stands for/sends out a message of LOVE and compassion for the living!
These people are a contradiction of themselves. They call themselves Adam Lambert fans, and in the same breath say who he shouldn't be hanging out with, who he should be fucking, how he should look, how he should talk, and it just goes on and on. Pfft, the thought of human beings staying so closed off in their own little land is almost humorous to me.
I wouldn't respect Adam as much as I do if he EVER decided to water himself down to an American Idol-approved image. He'd be lying to us all. His continued authenticity & perpetual optimism in the face of opposition in itself is worthy of a Mad World-esque standing ovation.
You're damn straight he posts these things on purpose, it weeds out the people who just don't GET THE MESSAGE. The fact is, the REAL him makes a lot of people uncomfortable. They don't see the person, they see the "(gasp!)gay guy from AI" with killer talent who stands for something they refuse to comprehend and completely disagree with.
It's 2010 and the US is a beautiful melting pot of diversity where people are finally beginning to embrace the beauty of DIFFERENCES. Adam's success to date is proof that he doesn't need to conform to the likes of a tiny fraction of superficial, intolerant people to become an iconic figure in pop culture. Something tells me he didn't get HERE by luck of the draw.
I'm fully aware that there will ALWAYS be people who are intolerant to anything that is different from what dwells inside their bubble, and for those, I'd say Adam isn't your cup of tea. So instead of waiting on him to morph into the next Justin Timberlake, why not move on & maybe turn your 'impeccable social skills' towards something a little more productive for humanity?
-PassionN2010
PassionN2010, this is the poster at 4:06. I'm the one that 5:57 directed most of his or her vitriol. At first I was supportive of the poster at 7:43, but after reading 5:57's "sermon" to me, I realized 7:43's post was rather nasty and probably not meant to be helpful to Adam. I admit that now, but there is one thing I will not back down from, and it is that you can still be a fan of someone and not agree with every career move they make. It doesn't make someone less of a fan.
If an artist truly doesn't care what people think of their art, and they are expressing themselves for their own satisfaction only, then great. More power to them. But if an artist wants to make a living selling their art, then they have to care a little bit about what the general public wants. They might have to compromise a bit. They have to find a place where they are still being true to their artistic vision, and yet still be marketable. I've heard Adam say something like this in interviews. Should he change himself to "PACIFY" all the closeminded idiots out there? No! But if he wants a successful career, he might have to compromise just a little. That's all I'm saying. I want Adam to be around for a long time. Like I said earlier, I thing he is the best talent to come around in years. I just want him to succeed. Is that so aweful?
How come you don't mind when you see a photo of Cheeks and Adam in drags. I don't like that Brad boy too much. Tried to accuse 50 cent was a homophobe. I've liked 50 cent way before Adam and I was really impressed how he cleared that attack in a very zen way. :)
I know I shouldn't be be bothering to respond to
8:35 but I just really need to say
"On his lips, those are not herpes, those are freckles!!!" Seems like you know him really well
I do agree with the comments of Adam
being really brave, etc., but I think he has reached a point in his life where he is just really comfortable in his own skin. In the RS interview,
he said he doesn't really think twice about being gay and that it just feels normal to him.
In younger years, he probably had to build up courage, but I think now he is not feeling the need for this as much. This is a big inspiration to everyone who wonders if they'll
be accepted, which is pretty much all of us!
I find the older I get, the less I worry about
what others think of me.
Ha ha ha "it's not like Adam just fell off a turnip truck into the big world" - laughing so hard at that.
I'm going to be using turnip truck now for various conversations, thanks glitzlady 1:49 am
What's the difference between compromise & conformity? Are we to expect ADAM to live in a straight world for the sake of his career as they would have him live .. that is .. tone down on the gay-ness? Thusly .. do not go to parties if there are 'questionable' people there even though ADAM has been living openly gay most of his adult life? Put him in a 'box' .. making sure his 'lifestyle' doesn't 'offend' the mainstream and 'sure .. we'll buy his music .. play it on the radio .. go to his concerts ... BUT ... only if he 'behaves' himself' .. is that it? Right here I have to use a word that covers what I'm thinking without being 'offensive' ... GLAMSHIT!!! Has no one listened to the words of ADAM's song "AFTERMATH"? Those lyrics say it all .. WANNA SCREAM OUT ... NO MORE HIDING ... DON'T BE AFRAID OF WHAT'S INSIDE!!! I just want ADAM to be WHO "HE" is comfortable BEING!! WHY does everyone want to CHANGE him?? AND if ADAM did change ... would HE be able to accept himself?? ADAM is happy ... LEAVE HIM ALONE!!
One more thing ... do we sleep with everyone that we associate with? Then why assume that ADAM does??
tess4ADAM
tess4ADAM: YOU SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY. MY VIEW EXACTLY. WELL SAID, THESE PEOPLE SPOUTING INNUENDOS ABOUT ADAM SHOULD CEASE AND DESIST, MY GOD IT IS HIS LIFE TO LIVE THE WAY HE WANTS NOT THE WAY WE SAY HE SHOULD. SOUNDS LIKE SOME BIBLE THUMPING TO ME. YOU GO ADAM!!!
Dear 4:06; 7:18,
Here’s my peace, and it’s going to be long-winded. I'm glad you noticed that the overall tone of 7:43 wasn't meant to be helpful to Adam. Fair enough, we're all human. I don't think anyone insinuated that we should all look at this "fandom" through rose-colored glasses and agree with every move Adam makes...that's pretty ridiculous, don't you think? I'll leave that kind of ass-kissing to someone else. I never claimed to agree with everything he's done "career-wise" myself. Yet, shockingly enough, you don't see me on here spreading hate with uneducated, intolerant word vomit either (ref- 7:43’s comments).
Honestly? Where have you been? He's said it a gazillion times in interview after interview. He “said it” with the absence of an apology for his AMA performance. He'd love to make everyone happy, but he's not going to do it by changing the very fiber of who he is inside, and he’s made it very clear. He’s self-assured, aggressive, provocative, theatrical, and gay with a touch of androgyny. He embraces all of those “controversial” things about himself so passionately that he allows us all to SEE it, every bit of it, while continuously verbalizing a message of LOVE, understanding, and tolerance. All of this is beyond commendable, inspiring, and even life/perception altering to those whose lives he touches on a deeper level. And people still wonder why his die-hard fans are so passionate. We simply see the HUMAN BEING, in all his bravery, and attempt to keep the needless politics at bay while paying the LOVE forward.
Thus we have the great divide between the fans of the music, and the fans of the PERSON AND THE MUSIC. The people that speak with such disregard due to political bullshit are indeed NOT Adam Lambert fans, they are fans of the music, and that's just fine! But they have to accept it’s only about the music for them, and stop trying to fix THE PERSON, as if he’s some robot that can be programmed. Why continue to beat the dead horse of politics? It’s at the very core of his message, for me, and I’d say quite a few others as well; embrace the person and their character, not the politics surrounding the person.
IMHO it’d be intensely more gratifying to have built a ridiculously passionate & loyal fan base while staying true to myself, then to watered-down myself into something more universally appealing. Can you imagine what it would be like mentally and emotionally? To be out, working yourself into exhaustion, performing month after month while hidden beneath a false image of yourself, for audiences whose majority would probably completely turn on you the moment they saw you posed with a few friends? For me, all I can think is…what a blanket of insecurity I would live beneath, constantly feeling belittled and judged and locked in a vault of uncertainty. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, and it’s cruel for anyone to expect someone else to live their life that way.
Adam appears to be a very HAPPY, successful person by being himself. The PERSON he is-in partnership with the talent he possesses creates the magic that can and DOES hold the attention of millions of people. The fans of the PERSON simply embrace what makes him happy. It doesn’t mean we all agree with everything he does, just means our gratitude and LOVE are completely unconditional. Why would he ever want to or need to change that? These fans you speak of that Adam lost post-AMA's are such a small minority that they may as well have been invisible in regards to marketability. HE continues to climb the charts, adorned in heavy glitter and every color of the rainbow, just as gay as he was from the day of his Idol audition, and people ADORE HIM for it! And that’s thanks to his hard work, integrity, and authenticity.
-PassionN2010
Wow narrow minds are everywhere. First of all, Adam, has said over and over he is not a Tranny. Second not all Trannies are gay, third - what is wrong with his Tranny fans showing their love? It is just fashion and fun - CHILL!!! Those who deep down wish Adam would stop being gay really need to realize he isn't going to change who he is.
I think Adam did try to avoid the gay label on Idol.
He wore jeans, dark jackets, suits, etc. He did not
wear heavy makeup or rhinestones on his eyes until the voting was over and did not cover his hair and body with glitter or wear clothes like he has on tour.
He wore no makeup at all to the audition.
He even pretended to be on a date with a girl (Danielle) walking arm in arm.
Everyone keeps saying let Adam be who he is, but EVEN ADAM didn't let himself be himself and cut loose until his own concerts started.
@9.13
he didn't try and hide himself on Idol, that was a totally different kind of performing to his own concert. He could hardly wear rhinstones and heavy makeup for 'Tracks of my tears". He pushed the boundaries on Idol further than any other Idol has ever done. As to not wearing makeup to the audition, that was his everyday look, if you look at photos of him he wears either no, or very little make up when not performing.
He never pretended to be on a date with a girl either, Danielle is one of his best friends and has been for many years, they often went out together.
HK fan
Adam toned it down on Idol because he knew he had to. He did not go to the audition wearing the top hat and fur collar glittery coat. The audition and all of the Hollywood elimination rounds were "performances" where he wore jeans and a basic t shirt and so were all the TV shows.
They WERE pretending to be on a "date" with Danielle having her arm tucked into his, which they don't usually do.
Anyway, none of this matters because people love "the real him" and the rest is history....
Seriously! Whoever you are that said Adam will be more hurt by being around Trannies than by being gay!! Do you hear yourself? Who the hell are you to say that? Adam accepts everyone and being around a certain type of person, or associating himself with a particular group of people does not in any way harm his career. He's very sure of who he is and he knows exactly what he's doing. He's living HIS life! Maybe you should get one of your own and stop PRETENDING to be Adam's fan!! You are a closed minded idiot who needs to get the hell outta here!! Don't eer change for ANYONE Adam!! OI love you for who you are and I will forever be your real fan!! Sandi Shader
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