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Would love a more ROCK album. I think that is when his voice sounds the best!

Well, he says 2013 is gonna rock!
My fingers are crossed.....JAK

I will be with ya all the way Adam Don't care what kind of music it is ,just make it so I want to sing along. You should hear my Underneath when I am in the car alone. EEK

In my opinion I have always thought 2013 and 2014 to be years Adsm would break through it all, just always had feeling! He learned much over last 4 years, and 2 studio albums. Cannot wait new album Adam! Sue

We're here for you, Adam! We'll support you to the ends of the earth. Just don't keep us waiting TOO long for the next album. Waiting for TP almost sent us to the insane asylum. We almost went CUCKOO!

DRG

So excited. Hope it comes out in November 2013 with a hit lead off single and GREAT promotion! Maybe Adam will go in a more pop rock direction. What song comes to mind is Pink's Try from her new album. His voice sounds so great when doing a bit more rock. That's why i love
Runnin and Take Back so much. #3 will be the charm,just know it!!!Not that the first 2 weren't fantastic!

To go back to the last thread and all the crap about PH. A fan made a fantastic pic of Adam to Perez:

http://twitter.com/AleksandraKv/status/290192597085986816/photo/1

LUV IT!!!

I love all of Adam's songs, but I love the ballads the most. I know everyone wants a rock album- but unfortunately rock doesn't seem to be mainstream anymore. Well Adam's a trendsetter so maybe he'll bring it back. Something needs to change with the music today that's for sure IMO!

This is link for one of the articles I ever read about Adam!

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/features/Adam+Lambert-274658.html

delilah5

Hehehe... Thanks @9:15 for that twitter pic.
Love love it!

@delilah5

Thanks for the link to the article.
Great read, all great things to say about ADAM.

My fingers are also crossed, JAK!
Really looking forward to the 3rd album.
It will sure rock! Go, ADAM!

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Female First @FemaleFirst_UK
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FEMALE FIRST: Adam Lambert - Defying All Expectations

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/features/Adam+Lambert-274658.html

I hope Adam's 3rd album isn't all rock. That would be totally boring but a few rock songs would be OK.

JAK here......never fear

Rock isn't all loud and wild....
Rock goes hand in hand with the very power ballads that suit Adam's voice so well. All these are considered Rock Ballads:

Aerosmith...I Don't Want to Miss a Thing
Journey...Open Arms
Guns N Roses...Sweet Child o Mine
Boston...More Than a Feeling
Kiss...Beth
U2...One
Queen...Somebody to Love
........I Want to be Free
........Love of My Life
and.....Who Wants to Live Forever!!
........THUD >->O

Very positive Female First article but I don't agree with his comments re Adam's FYE album ... I think it's SUPERB.

@JAK
The only songs I like out of those you've listed are -

U2...One (Adam's version leaves U2's version behind the starting blocks)
Queen...Somebody to Love
........I Want to be Free
and.....Who Wants to Live Forever!!

Well, if it's going to be a rock album, I hope it's not loaded with screaming. A little screaming goes along way, even if it is Adam screaming.

Oops! That should be "I Want To BREAK Free". :-D

Adam, a couple of partial rap songs may reel in some younger generation fans. It's the in-thing with them...you can do all genres and rap most likely will resonate well with the younger yet-to-be tapped group; partial not the whole song. How about a partial a cappella to showcase your vocal kungfu as well. This is your year according to fengshui, year of the snake...9/10 points, highest on the compatibility chart; even beat the water dragon, for you. Take it with a pinch of salt. :)

Lam-my

Rap?????????? I hate rap but whatever!

love the link of the picture to PH. ha, ha

There are many kinds of rock, pop rock, folk rock, country rock, the real screamy stuff is heavy metal!
I don't think that would be a choice for Adam.

I'm hoping or 3rd album to have a lot of rock and rock. Ballads. @JAK I really liked your choice of songs on your list.madam singing Queen is my all time favorite. His power vocals match so well with Queen's rock opera style.

I have not stopped keeping my fingers crossed for a Queenbert tour sometime in 2013.

CT

Sorry for the typos in above post

CT

Time for Miracles is a rock power ballad. Can't get much better than that.....

@ Lam-my....maybe Eber could whip up some rap for Adam! lol....

Oh no, almost 3:00 A.M. good nite!
.......JAK

JAK
I remember you did some kind of rap poem 3+ years ago...so perhaps now it's a good time to make use of that part of your brain again. lol! And I remember trying to give it a title and came up with...Boneshakerjak... goes rap rap rap...lol! Hey I got 2 consolation prizes from you for that effort. lol! That was 3+ years ago...whoa!

Lam-my

Rap - yuk! That's not music!

PSY's Gangnam Style is basically a partial rap song; first song to make the 1 billion online video views ever. So that gave me a little insight into what people like. Now we are talking of two things here, as far as Adam's next album is concerned...personal likes / dislikes verses sales and the buyers. Adam is pretty attuned to business / sales; as we know. He strides out when any possibilities arise. So with that kind of entrepreneur thinking, he might look into this rap genre for a couple of songs if he thinks it will bring in more cash returns...that to me is a wise entrepreneur move. In any case Adam is well versed in sing-talk! lol! Well, a huge benchmark to beat, 1 billion video hits in just 6 months...Gangnam, basically a rap song. Like the saying goes...If you can't beat them, join them. Adam knows and talks business.

Lam-my

If Adam wants to sell his soul to rap, so be it. And I've been lead to believe that it's being true to oneself that was the most important consideration.

Am I the only one unable to click on the links on this fansite? They're posted but unclickable, at least for me. I want to vote but unable to because of the way the links are posted.

Off Topic: Can anyone tell me what happened to The Home Planet with Chunkeymonkey fansite?

Don't hate me, but a poprock song with a little rapping would be fresh. Adam has the whole package, but seeems apprehensive to step out with his dancing and rapping skills.

I don't care how many Gangnam hits there are.
Rap isn't music and never will be.

Whoa, that sounds pretty negative. Adam has never indicated he has any strong aversion to rap or partial rap songs; just that he is not so inclined because he is basically more into pop rock / funk / power ballads and some jazz improvisation. Didn't you hear him say album 3 will be about new explorations? Adam will never "sell his soul"! You don't know him!! Goodness gracious! Even if he eventually does some rap songs, it will be his own style of rap, "true to oneself" style and I can assure you he'll give those other serious rap singers a run for their money. "sell his soul" phew! Can't believe this being said of Adam. If he had wanted to sell his soul to anything, he would not have waited till now!! Music has to be measured from the business angle as well...yes money! But that does not equate to having to sell one's soul to attain it. It's called pragmatism! My suggestion above was partial not complete rap. But Adam is so creative, not to worry as far as that is concerned.

Lam-my

Interesting, when Adam sings Are You Gonna Go My Way, everyone gets excited, although they love his other songs it songs like this one they seem to go crazy for, Adam's very good at putting a modern spin on these kind of songs so they don't sound out dated. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing what he comes up with and hope his sales go through the roof.

@4:26 AM, I'm 4:17 AM, Whoa! Who said anything about Gangnam?! That song is not my cup of tea, and besides the singer is anti-American or at least he was until the bucks started rolling in!!! Go back and listen to Naked Love performed live, Adam rapping...."back to the middle and around again"...does that jog your memory?!! Nothing wrong with a little rap in a song!!
Now "Walk This Way"......

@Lam-my, just noticed that we both began our post with "Whoa". Cyberspace Twins! lol

Kickin' In Gals & Fevergurls

I think Adam is quite capable of deciding the direction his next album will take; he is smart, talented and has learned a lot in the last four years. I hope however that he will consider a collaboration with some amazing female vocalist, I love all his duets.

GMT

@GTM, That would be nice.

@5:14 AM .... Lam-my mentioned Gangnam.

Cyberspace Twins...Another good one! lol! Okay I'll rank them according to my preference but you sure have a knack with names! 1) Kickin In Gals 2) Cyberspace Twins 3) Fevergurls...lol!

Lam-my

@4:26 AM, I'm sorry! @5:37 AM, Thank you!

I'm feeling it to my bones that we can hear more rock this time and it's going to be wild..... My wishful thinking ???

Oh I love to dance in a rock n roll sound he!he!


Canadian

@Lam-my, I just went back and read all the posts, apparently, you and I are on the same wavelength about adding a little rap to the mix. I can't mention the name of the billion viewed video and person, but I understand what you're saying. Now we're Outlaws of Rap aka Rapberts.lol
Kickin' In Gals and Fevergurls

Glambert forever
Rapbert never ever

@6:34 AM, I was only joking.

Same wavelength
Lol! Okay I'll do an updated ranking:

1) Kickin In Gals
2) Outlaws of Rap
3) Fevergurls
4) Rapberts
5) Cyberspace Twins

Like share-market, they fluctuate! lol!

Lam-my

Adam could develop a whole new sound with rap. He's got that honey-smooth, sexy voice. He has a razor-sharp wit. I'm not saying that he should lots of rap. Just give it a try. I think his new album will change direction but will NOT be all one kind of music. It may be more rock, but not ALL rock. He can still mix it up a little, just like he did with TP. I'm excited to see what he does this time around. Love the cool song suggestion here. Lam-my, I love your list!

DRG

I'd hate to see Adam waste his incredible voice on Rap music,and I'm done with so called monotonous pop music,what I would like to see is Adam singing his heart out to some solid Rock music. Many people think that the younger generation like the music on radio but it's surprising just how many of them say they are so sick of it how boring it is. Adam has the ability to bring rock back into the mainstream again, he'd kill it and he'd also be sure to win over new fans both male and female. In my opinion this is what Adam was meant to be a ROCK GOD, know I'd like to see him do just that, add some ballads to the mix but concentrate on rock, he is unique enough to make it sound fresh and new again.

DRG
Thank you, but the real owner of the list is my Kickin In Gal Cybertwin! It's not a song list. The names refer to her and myself. lol!

Lam-my

@Lam-my, lol...Love It!
You've created a word by using the first letter of each number preference. If we take the first letter of numbers 4-R, 2-O, 5-C, 1-K , It spells the word ROCK, then add number 3-F, We get Rock Fever. Hmm...maybe we're on to something. No coincidence the way you arranged your preference. lol

Kickin'Gals & Fevergurls

Pop-rock pppplllleeeeaaassseeee. And lots of billiard...ooopppsss ballads.

I'm thinking that it doesn't matter what direction Adam goes, what genre he sings, how his voice is displayed/spotlighted, uptempo or downtempo, etc. I believe Adam's success will depends on the words/lyrics in his song. Adam's lyrics are the most scrutinised than any artists ever in history. The words/lyrics will be the deal breaker or the top of the charts success.

The good thing about rock music it has many different genres, I remember when Adam was working with Ryan Tedder for his FYE album, Ryan stated that Adam was most definitely a rock singer. I also agree about the lyrics, as much as I appreciate where Adam was coming from with his TP album for many I believe it did sound too much like a gay anthem, I personally loved it, it was so well written and Adam's voice sounds incredible but sadly radio stations were reluctant to play it.

Hey Kickin In Gal
This is getting pretty complex! Wow! I like Rock Fever! Hey are you some kind of jugglenaut...

Lam-my

people like songs they are familiar with- songs that stand the test of time because they are good songs. i don;t see what is so special about Bruno Marts new song- hard to sort out if it is the person, the song, the timing, the promotion or all of the above that makes a bit. anyway wish Adam has one coming up this year.

I think we need to have more faith in Adam, he's come a long way and as he has said, he's learn't a lot since idol, I'm sure Adam will be analysing what the best path is for his next album and I'm sure his recording label will also be directing him to a certain degree.

@8:13 AM, Yep, I think the EW magazine killed the buzz about Trespassing with its review and then calling it Adam's big gay album. Notice that Adam is the Only artist that the word gay is always mention instead of the focus on his music. You never see nor hear the word gay in association with Frank Ocean. It's always about his music. Why the double standard with Adam in the media? It's like Adam is the only gay man on the planet. Maybe they're not used to so much hottest from a man, especially gay. That gotta be it.

Adam -- Please invent a NEW sound. Go for it. I know you can.

I know Adam is looking for certain sound and that certain song that will CLICK, regardless of what genre it is. Songs of all genres have been hits. He and his managment will work hard to make that happen. Adam is too darn good to just let him flounder into oblivion. He's capable of singing ANY genre well. And he's creative. He can put a new twist on anytbing. I don't think his new album will have just one genre. He'll mix it up but still have a cohesive theme. If Adam threw in a little rap just for fun, that would be ok, too, although I'm no fan of rap. Adam should be inventive and playful.
I'm excited about the new music, whatever it is. Let's not over-analyze what we haven't even heard.

8:46, The difference is that Adam shows his gayness openly, and lives his gay life openly. He's not going to stop, either. It's who he is. To him, to do otherwise would be living a lie.

DRG

One thing I love about Adam is the way he is not afraid to be who he is, nor should he try to change who he is just for the sake of record sales.

Correction-I meant to say, they're not use to so much hotness from a man.

The songs JAK mentioned are all classic rock. That's only played on oldies stations and isn't going to attract Adam any new fans. Going that direction may make a few fans happy but won't be more commercially successful than Trespassing.

I'm not going to tell Adam what kind of music he should make. I'm going to trust Adam to make the kind of music he wants to make and to trust he and his management will go the direction they think will bring more commercial success. I'm looking forward to seeing what he comes up with.

I don't care one iota about Adam's sexuality, but I've said all along that although he should never hide or deny it, he shouldn't flaunt it in the "in your face" mode that he seems to get off on. I have many friends & family tell me what a turn off it is, & I've even had some gays themselves tell me the same thing. I've had one even tell me that it portrays gays in a negative way & that "we" are not all like that. (He meant flamboyant & defiant). I knew exactly what he meant, and as much as I love Adam, I do think he needs to grow up some & just concentrate on the music, as he said in the beginning. You can still be a positive role model for your community, but being a flamboyant in your face flaming f*g (& that's a word Adam openly uses so don't stone me) is not going to win the mainstream audience. I want a rock & roll show, not a drag show. And most everyone who doesn't have Adam "blinders" on, agree with me. And guess what-I'm going to post this under my real name...so bring it on:)

Shaley, you are entitled to your own opinion et to live your life the way you believe you should. Adam has the same right to sing, play and live his life in any way he wishes, so why bother telling what he should do? We can either love him and just ignore him like many have done, at their loss in my opinion.

@ Shaley

I agree with you. I hope you won't be too badly stoned for expressing your opinion. Freedom of speech should apply on this site. -o-

I don't think the kind of music Adam sings has anything to do with his lack of radio play. He has had some really good songs and been praised by critics. I think it's Adam himself not the songs and that's shameful, because it means no terrific song is going to Pop the Lock for him.

@Shaley, there's verity in what you said. No stoning from this diehard fan.

Well Shaley I guess I missed those drag shows you think adam has been putting on. Lol. If you don't like him then move on to someone else. Why are you posting here? Anyone who talks like that about him is no fan

@Shaley
As an Adam friend of yours (we live in the same area, and have spent some time together..:)) you know I would never stone you (assuming this is the Shaley I know..can't be more than one, right??!!). And I think you have every right to express your feelings. I think we all know what you're talking about. Its the "elephant in the room" sometimes. We all have friends and acquaintances who have said similar things.. And our hearts sink just a little...

Adam is definitely out and proud both in his private and public persona and there is no doubt in my mind that his image and public performance persona is on the "flamboyant" and "gayish" end things. And no doubt it's affected his ability to attract a large segment of the public in general. A real life example: I have a good friend who went to the first Fantasy Springs with me, who has a gay adult child, who told me that she thought Adam would have a hard time because of his flamboyant performance style..she is not the least bit homophobic, just realistic and honest. She liked Adam on Idol but is not a big fan currently.. Its how she feels.. People know that's he's the "gay Idol guy" and he's certainly perpetuated that perception by his make-up, his fashion, his performance style, etc.. And some of his music. He in reality was more about "glam", truth be told, but today most people don't get that, "glam" isn't "in" anymore, so "gay" it is.

I'll be curious to see what his vision for his new music, and perhaps a slight reinvention of himself as well (?), turn out to be. Will he become a little more mainstream "rockstar" instead of "glamrock" with a little less "gay" or "glam"??? Perhaps.. in order to attract more "mainstream" music audiences, he'll do that. Or perhaps he'll continue to be what he considers to be the essential Adam, the makeup wearing, costume-loving guy he's been for years (the guy that we all love and admire..). Will he be "true to himself" or will he take it down a notch, to ensure and invite more acceptance within the general population. Time will tell..

What you said was true, there is no denying that. Its what many of the public perceive him to be and whether its completely fair for people to automatically dismiss him because of the "gay", it is certainly what has happened in many cases. We do need to be real about that. We, and he, cannot easily change people's minds about how they feel about his current style. On the other hand, he IS wildly popular in Asia, South Africa, etc..etc.. and certainly here in the US as well, within the Adam Lambert fan community, so it does remain to be seen whether that is enough for Adam, or whether he'll make certain concessions in order to be more widely known and appreciated as a vocalist and performer.

As you pointed out, there are many who will not give him a chance to prove to them that he is vastly talented and is worthy of their attention and admiration. We as fans of Adam's are so aware of that, of his talent and his worthiness.. But so many will not allow him into their musical world because of that. ..Sad but true. I, and you of course, support Adam regardless, as so many fans of his do, because we "know" him so well, we know that he is a fabulous human being and we love his voice, his performances, his inner beauty as well as his outer beauty.

Continued below (sorry...)

Continued from above.... :))

To complicate things even more, as an adult and "out" gay man, he was surrounded by his loving family and friends, and lives in a place (Hollywood, LA) that is a "safe" place for a gay man, and he admitted early on that he was so used to that feeling of acceptance for so long, in the theater world and the underground West Hollywood world, that he really didn't even consider that being gay was a big deal. Which it isn't, but to some it is something entirely new and perhaps not completely okay. He's had almost 4 years now to process it all and as I mentioned earlier, we'll see what comes next. I adore him for who he is..but not all do. And yes, some in the gay community don't like his outward manifestation of "gay".. Others want him to be more "gay". A difficult position to be in. I hope he eventually settles on the best thing for him personally, whatever that is. Maybe he already has..and maybe he's still evolving, along with his music.

Thanks for sharing your true feelings Shaley. Next time I see you, big hug :)))

Personally I would rather see Adam be a success on Broadway then continue to beat his head against the wall trying to get radio hits. He could still work on original music, but the last thing I want is for him to disappear for a year working on a new album.

@ glitzylady...best comment of yours I've ever read. No sense hiding our heads in the sand, it is what it is and he is who he is.
It's his decision to make because he's the one who has to live with it. I don't say one shouldn't be true to oneself, but sometimes in life we all have to conform to some extent. We will love Adam whatever choice he makes, as we love our family or friends when their choices don't exactly gel with our opinion. Everyone lives their own life and chooses their own path. I'll be there as long as I can cheering Adam on and being grateful he came along when he did......he sparked up my life!
Even though it was pretty good already!.....JAK

11:48 and 1:42, Shaley has every right to post here. People post their opinions on Adam and what they think he should do here all the time. Shaley is a fan and respectful. That's way better than all the crap and hate and trolls here all the time.

Yes Adam is flamboyant, yes he is proud about being gay, and why shouldn't he be, and it really gets under my skin when people try to make excuses for Adam being the way he is by trying to explain why Adam is the way he is. If you don't like or understand him, move on and find someone else to criticise.

I don't call it respectful when someone is expecting Adam to change his whole personality, he is who he is, you either except that or you don't. I love his attitude, his sense of fun, I love what he stands for, I also love the loving caring person that he is.

@JAK 2:06 PM, I like the way you express your feelings for Adam, that's exactly how I see it too only you have done a better job getting your views across than me.

@JAK
Thank you...I honestly adore and admire Adam so much and will support him and his vision for himself, and his music, in whatever he does.. because not only is he a very talented guy, but because of his complete honesty and his integrity to be who he is with no apologies. However, I also recognize the downside to that, because we do live in the real world, which is not always accepting of Adam and HIS reality. So, as you said, to hide our heads in the sand doesn't change the fact that it has been and it probably still will be, a bumpy road for him. I feel that he has been treated unfairly at times, snubbed often, and that's really a terrible shame because he has so much to offer, not only his voice but he himself can teach us a great deal. Given time and the right circumstances, I have faith that he will gradually be given the chance to prove that to a greater number of people. Perhaps Era 3 will be the turning point. My ultimate concern and wish for Adam is that he be allowed to do what makes him happy, performing and singing for whomever will listen, and for him to have his own personal joy in love and life. Not too much to ask...

To everyone else here:
I also want to again support Shaley in the words and ideas she shared today. She has every right to say them, and I can tell you from personal experience that she is a lovely and supportive Adam Lambert fan. No hate please....Thanks...

Adam singing rock is the best Whole lotta Love and Are you going to go my way, Runnin, Take Back, Rock and all Queen are my favorites. I hope it is an album with Queen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An album with Queen isn't going to get radio play or be commercially successful. And I doubt it is what Adam wants to do.

It would get played on rock stations!!

I love Queen but sadly it is a bit out dated for the radio of today's music. Of course Adam is very good at changing things up and putting a modern spin on things, I personally love rock music so who knows he may be able to bring rock back into the mainstream which would be amazing.

My daughters and son-in-laws would not becaught dead at an Adam concert, but they would go and see him front Queen. Just sayin.

@glitzylady,
I understand that you don't want people hating on each other and that's fair enough, but the way Shaley expressed herself was not exactly thoughtful either, inviting people to 'bring it on' if they dare to disagree is as good as provocation in it's self.

3:35PM, that says to me they are really Queen fans, not Adam fans. Or love classic rock which is only on oldies stations and will not bring Adam the commercial success and recognition everybody keeps saying they want Adam to have.




I want Adam to find the amount of success and recognition he wants playing the type of music he wants to play.

@3:35 PM, you raised them, so what does that say about you as a mother and human being? Just askin?
Both my son and daughter listen to Adam's music. I've taught them to respect all people. Just sayin!

Queen still have a large number of fans and their music has stood the test of time, it's great music, but try listening to what's being played on radio today, that's what Adam has to take into account because that's what's currently popular, and that's how sales are made. Great sales equal finances for promoting the music, concerts and touring.

@Anon 3:43 PM
I just wanted to let people know she isn't a "troll"... But yes, she did issue that invitation, so fair enough...

Ultimately, I think we all only want the most success for Adam.
I feel he is very aware of the challenges he faces with a large portion of the public, and if he chooses to present himself in a certain way, he knows how they will react by not supporting him. It sucks, but it is still a very homophobic society we live in, particularly if you are flamboyant and glam. I love Adam for being himself and love being a Glambert!

Some people come from a conservative background and may have had very little to do with gay people, so at first glance they may feel a little apprehensive, but once they hear his voice they can't help but be drawn in and another thing I've noticed is how the people who have actually met Adam in person have nothing but nice things to say about him.

@3:45 They do not like the type of music Adam plays. They listen to rock music, not pop. They are in their early to late twenties and do not like pop. They have nothing against gay people. I have a sister who is gay and I have taught them to love and respect everyone no matter race, or sexual orientation. My youngest daughter's best friend is also gay. So I think you need not judge people because of their musical taste. I am proud of my children and how they treat others. My daughters did go with me to the idol concert of Adam's, because I made them.

This thread started with the ever present and in your face Lammy wanting Adam to do Rap. That's crap! And Lammy, have your ongoing discussions with other fans of yours on another site please. This is not the 24/7 Lammy fan site.

It moved on with Shaley speaking her mind and finding many people agreeing with her. Glitzylady then steps in to rescue Shaley and define for us what Shaley actually meant. As I am in total agreement with what Shaley had to say, I find this totally unnecessary.

We all have the right to our own opinions; we do not have the right to our own facts.

Lammy - you REALLY need to get a life. And what the hell is a jugglenaut?

Shaley - Right on. I have made the same comments as you, sometimes untagged, and have been thrown under the bus by people here who cannot, will not and totally refuse to see the different sides of Adam.

Glitzylady - I praise you for always trying to keep the peace, but there are times when people just need to battle it out for themselves.

JAK - I love you.

I have been an Adam fan since the pre-interviews on tv before the auditions on Idol. I will be a fan of Adam's until I draw my last breath.

Jomokole

Welcoming the creation of his new album, Adam, his incredible muse, his lyrics continue trapping, the beauty and brilliance of the song, no doubt! HH

@Jomokole,5:54 PM
You make some very valid points, well said.

@glitzlady and shaley- I totally agree! My own mother who loved adam on idol is turned off by is in the face stuff, as well as my friend who I took to his GNT concert. He's not for everyone that doesn't get him like us and people that follow him and get the bug LOL. I have no idea what they mean when they say he's too gay, WTF but I love him and get him but for the casual fan yes he's comes off shall I say different? It's a curse for sure in homo america but hisd warm humble heart will eventally win over iof he ever gets promoted. That's why I though idol judge was just the break he finally needed?f

Jomokole
Mmm...you finally did it! Exposeh to me, good. Now this is an international site and I do not think you have the right at all to tell me to go elsewhere or for that matter what to do with my life. If you check the last several threads, I was not there at all so it's not true I'm always in your face unless you are fixated and scouts me out! In any case we're many hours away, in terms of time zone. When I sleep, you're awake so really there's a lot less time for me to be in your face. Mmm, so you finally plucked up enough courage to put a name to your silly comments. Do you feel threatened by me? If not why do you insist on telling me to leave? So you are the perpetrator on my tail all along! Okay, keep using your name-tag and I won't be in your face; in fact you won't even see me on the same page if I see this wonderful Jomokole name of yours! It has the word, Joke, in it. Are you, are you a joke? But I think most of the time, you're the one coming into my path and now I know why. You want me to leave. Well, as I've told you, even if I leave, it will not be because someone wants me to, but rather it will be on my own accord! Be careful, if you have this mentality of driving people away, you may face the same situation when the tables are turned. How you treat people is how you get it back in return. So be careful. I'm not talking about karma or anything like that; it's your own attitude and lopsided mentality that will do yourself in eventually. Oh 'jugglenaut' is just a nonsense word that I coined; it just popped out of my mind because my Kickin In pal was such an expert at juggling with names. Yes, please keep your Joker name on for me to steer clear off!

Lam-my

Jugglenaut haiku


Kickin In Gals
Having a whale of a time
On the same wavelength


Lam-my

@Jamokole
I was not trying to "explain what @Shaley meant". She explained herself very clearly. I was explaining my own feelings and thoughts. You pretty much dismissed my words as a rehash. Maybe you found what I said as unnecessary, but I didn't. @JAK got what I was saying. And I think people here do a fine job of "battling it out for themselves". On a regular basis. :))

@jomokole
U have a few points that merit further contemplation ... Too bad you come off as such an unpleasant miserable boob that I most probably won't ever make the effort to do so! how dare you be so unpleasant under the guise of reasoned fact ( nobody likes a know it all btw). so you used a tag, it reveals nothing ... But a tip to me to scroll on by the judgement and mean spirited-ness. There is a lot of nastiness that pops up on this site and I am sure many contributors here will wonder why your post has gotten under my skin ... I guess it's because you are a wolf in sheep's clothing ... Which I find more unseemly than an all out there wolf

Oh, btw, @ 2:40 1/13/13: I happen to agree totally. that's not my idea of respect either! enjoyed and appreciated the tone and tenor of your brief but powerful post :).

Omg ya'll. I was not expecting this many comments on my view, but am happy to see them-the good & the bad, so to speak. I'm on my way home from a day of family football viewing, & I do have a bit more to say-so will post later. This is good tho. As Adam has stated-nothing wrong with a good healthy (& hopefully civilized) debate!

8:58
You gave me a thought...that maybe we need to band together whenever a "wolf in sheep's clothing" rears its ugly head; so that eventually they won't be so blatant in trying to reek havoc on this rather interesting site that has a uniquely international flavour. That is one of the reasons I'm still here to 'talk' with anyone who may suddenly pop up and just say Hi! I've got numerous such 'encounters' and they're so uplifting. That is all my purpose for being here and not to create my personal fansite as told to me by the Joker! Not the first time I've been told by her to leave but many times. It could be a sinister motive...since I'm here almost every day, getting rid of me, she thinks might have lesser comments or responses to my comments which I've said even surprise me at times, coming from all the way, Madagascar and just yesterday a Persian/Iranian glambert says she has been following my posts. So referring back to the sinister motive, she may be from another site, not so popular, trying to diminish this rather nicetish one lol! Thank you for standing up for your principles. And I like the phrase, "unpleasant miserable boob" lol! sort of fits the Joker! lol!

Lam-my

shaley,
Not really sure where 'the flaunting the gay in your face' comes from'.
Adam certainly doesn't flaunt it in interviews, yes he talks about being gay but only in response to questions.
I don't find him at all effiminate, in fact I find him an extremely hot, attractive masculine guy, even in makeup...
As to when he performs, again I don't find him too gay at all, sexy yes. How can you say that all those accoustic performances he has done have been to gay. Maybe your friends are judging hi on that one AMA performance? But have your friends ever seen him perform, or seen other performers? I have seen quite a few singers live, and many more on youtube, and the things Adam does are tame compared to many.
Yes he has gay dancers, but so to many other singers, Kylie/Gaga etc...
So in your friends thinking, Gaga being straight shouldn't dress so weird, or be so flambuoyant, as she is implying that all straight people are like that.

Adam has tried toning it down,for months at the beginning of the Trespassing era, turning up in jeans and a t-shirt, hardly any makeup...it didn't get him anywhere, so he may as well be himself.
We just have to face facts the him being gay is a big issue to many people, and whatever he looks like, and whatever he sings, they will not get past that fact.

Its funny that Glitzylady (I think)mentioned how popular he is in Asia. They seem to love his flambuoyant, glittery self, and yet Asians are generally very conservative, and generally perceived as being far behind on gay issues.

OK..now-where to begin. First off, thanks to everyone for their comments. I knew I would get some backlash (hence the "bring it on"), but I am surprised as to the degree! It's all good tho, (despite the few who nievely think I'm a troll because I have the cohonies to state my honest opinion). Thanks to those here who are open minded enough to support that right (glitzylady-(((muah)))!
The one thing a do regret is that I might could have worded some things a bit differently-more "sensitively" perhaps. I was in somewhat of a hurry and might not have worded some things the way I should have. But I can tell you one thing-glitzylady is right-I adore Adam, have since Idol. And as much as a lot of you may not want to admit, the Idol Adam is the one most of us fell in live with. Some of us with decent "gaydar" may have suspected his orientation, but there is a reason the suits running the show kept it a secret. This country is not ready for a gay pop idol-period. It's changing slowly, but still in the baby step mode. Take George Michael for example. Those of you old enough may remember his first group WHAM. The played a video if theirs on MTV (when they still were a music channel-rolleyes). I

@Shaley

I think you're in the middle of a second post... your first dropped off abruptly... well, in any event, I still feel you're part of the problem not the solution. Just my opinion, which you seem open to reading, which is cool. And your support of Adam is equally as cool... But the coolest would be to fully unconditionally support him being exactly who he is, exactly, while still striving for mainstream success. The one thing that I do absolutely applaud you for illuminating is that, it seems to me, by all public accounts and what we can glean from what Adam has put into public domain... is that Adam is absolutely not just Mr. T-shirt and jeans... he is all of his more "left of center" self, always ways, and I hope he can always be that as he pursues mainstream pop success. I find it so offensive that good fans, good people, want him to tone down what they perceive as the gay as he journeys forward. That is what I mean by part of the problem not the solution. OMG, it's actually mindboggling to me. I do, I promise you, I do understand you, and other's who fell similiarly, I do understand where your heart is and why you're stating what your stating, I promise you I do... but bottom line I think it is offensive for anyone to suggest that he should be other than who he genuinely is as he pursues mainstream success. JMO. (and to the poster above, I think it was HKfan, I am rushing, yes - the early Trespassing T-shirt and Jeans type thing didn't seem to help, good for Adam for playing the game and giving it a go... but I have a gut feeling, and really what do I know, nothing, but I have a gut feeling Adam is done with that shit. JMO).

6:15 here. @Hkfan, I liked your comment btw :), if that didn't come out right in my post above :). I thought it had some amazingly well articulated points. Shaley and I would do well to not post when we are rushing I suppose, lol!

Oops...didn't know there was a word limit!...As I was saying-I remember thinking GM must be gay because of his "look" & his actions in the video. Well soon afterwards, he came out with a whole new image. New hairstyle, new dress, very macho looking. Hot girls in his videos, etc. My point is, the powers that be knew that was the image that sells. And unfortunately, it's still pretty much the same mentality to this day.
I don't want Adam pretending he's something he's not-I just want him to tone it down-somewhat like he did when he did those few shows before Tress passing-(as you stated HK). Only thing is, he didn't stick with it. And as far as the "in your face"- to the average "Joe", it is. And now he's brought in the male dancers- the new one (Johnny?) being extremely effeminate. His actions on stage make it seem like a gay cabaret- I'm sorry-that's how I perceive it. And so do many-trust me. I know he likes putting his friends to work, but it would be a lot more "balanced" with Terrance & a female dancer (like he did with the GNT). To me, that era was the perfect balance of "flamboyance & macho". It just seems now, he sometimes feeds off of Johnny's "prissiness", which I'm sorry-I just can't stand. And that's my perogative. None of you can tell me you like & agree with everything your spouse, friend, child or grandma says or does. And it doesn't help him to win the mainstream audience to act like

That. (Sheesh-I rambled off the page again, sorry-last post-promise).
Anyway, I just wish he would try a more mainstream approach (still being his glam self-just maybe more "Bowie & Freddy" like. In other words, be glam & even somewhat flamboyant-just without throwing the sexuality "in you face" attitude. Make the next album even more mainstream relatable, but with still keeping his unique style. It can be done, & I'm hoping that he has come somewhat to that realization now. Time will tell.
OK, I'm done ranting now. I know there are still a lot if you that will disagree with me, & that's OK. What the true test is-is how mature & civil we can be doing it.

@Shaley Well said. I also wish he would get rid of Johnny. I agree with all of your points.

KRW

@6:15: Thank you for your comments, but I must respectively disagree. We don't have to like everything Adam does, says, sings, wears,etc. As I stated in an earlier post, you can't honestly say you agree or like everything others say or do in your life. I do believe in supporting him, & I have-or I wouldn't be here now. The thing is-it's not working. He has to try a new approach. If he continues to be stubborn, I just hope he will be happy with his small group of supporters (& yes-in the scheme of things, we are small). And I say "we", because I will always support him, even tho I may not like it or agree with it. That's reality.

@KRW: thank you;)

It's too late for Adam to turn back the clock. People who don't like him because they think he is too gay already have their minds made up - they aren't going to change now no matter what he does. That's reality.

I don't think he has a chance in hell of being heard on the radio no matter what he does (and same goes for Cook/Kris/Lee by the way, so it's not about the gay).

@Lam-my, I knew what you meant by the word jugglenaut. It gave me a good chuckle! Also, Love the Haiku!
Why would someone begrudged us from having a little fun while talking about Adam? Go figure?!

Kickin' In Gals & Fevergurls

No Shaley, we don't love everything our spouse, partner, children, parents etc do... but unless they are hurting other people, we support them in their endeavours and how they are carrying them out, if that method and manner is, again, not destructive to other human beings. It seems to me Adam is not being STUBBORN, gosh I hate that characterization some people put on him (and let me tell you, I am NOT a fan who thinks his poo smells like roses, to be crass, not one of those kind of fans at all, I assue you) but stubborn doesn't have to be assigned to him because he is making choices that feel true to himself. I'd venture to guess, as he has shown himself to be quite a clever young man, that he is well aware of the sacrifices he's making with his choices as he goes for more mainstream popularity and rewards.

@3:35 PM, I apologize to you because I misunderstood your post. I applaud you as a mother, and so happy that you have loving beautiful children. Please accept my apology. Again, I'm sorry for misreading your post.

9:02 adding: Clearly Shaley is an avid support, but I am referring to "Support" without this caveat and that caveat and this headshake and that eyeroll etc... is what I mean. Of course we are free to lightheartedly and freely talk about Adam's career (I'm here aren't I :)); but the sort of notions and sentiments Shaley is putting out there in her posts are over the line in my HUMBLE opinion. Just my point of view. It's funny, because I completely had the "cabaret" ache/thought about Adam's show recently, so I will be honest and put that out there... I just didn't have the GAY cabaret ache/thought... I am not naive, just of the belief that Adam is well aware of how he may be "niche-ing" his career somewhat with some of his choices... and although I don't him at all, I believe he makes his choices clear eyed, as opposed to stubbornly. Yes, I find him a bit reactionary maybe, but not stubborn. Hopeful and looking at moving/changing boundries and lines, but not out of stubborn-ness. Just my POV.

more like "Bowie/Freddie"... Freddie was crazy outlandish prissy out there etc. Media was different then and so he wasn't hounded and questioned openly and aggressively about his personal life style, but regardless of that truth, he was so prissy and OTT on stage that one inclined to hate that sort of action was going to hate him regardless of how closeted he attempted to be. You make a point and negate it in the next sentence.

@3:35 Apology accepted.

No one should disagree when Adam is called "stubborn." He uses that word about himself all the time. Both Leila and Eber have said that Adam can be very stubborn.

@9:31 am: I believe I stated in my post that I support the flamboyance to a degree. Yes, Freddy was flamboyant, but he didn't go around kissing his band members, having prissy dancers around him, calling himself a f*g on stage, etc. He put on a show, but still left his sexuality a little bit of a mystery. Queen has way more straight male fans than Adam. There's a reason for that.
Oh, & the "eye roll" is referring to MTV, & how it used to play good music & videos...absolutely nothing to do with Adam.
And I say again, this is a good discussion-even one I bet Adam would approve. After all, isn't he the one who's always encouraging people to be free to speak their minds without backlash? Some of you need to start practicing what he preaches.

@9:31 am: I believe I stated in my post that I support the flamboyance to a degree. Yes, Freddy was flamboyant, but he didn't go around kissing his band members, having prissy dancers around him, calling himself a f*g on stage, etc. He put on a show, but still left his sexuality a little bit of a mystery. Queen has way more straight male fans than Adam. There's a reason for that.
Oh, & the "eye roll" is referring to MTV, & how it used to play good music & videos...absolutely nothing to do with Adam.
And I say again, this is a good discussion-even one I bet Adam would approve. After all, isn't he the one who's always encouraging people to be free to speak their minds without backlash? Some of you need to start practicing what he preaches.

Oops, I believe I meant to direct my "Freddy" post to 10:47 AM.

@9:13: Are you suggesting that being an avid supporter should include loving everything he does & never disagreeing with anything? Or if one does-keeping completly silent & never stating your opinions or suggestions? If so, you're either very immature or delisional. (Think of Adam's "constructive critisim" & "opinions" re. Les Mis"). He supported the actors even tho he disagreed with the singing. I don't hear any of you berating him for stating his opinion (although many "outsiders" did). But then again, that's Adam, who can do no wrong in most eyes.
Delusional.

All Adam needs to do is to make couple songs that will resonate with general public on first listen on the radio. That's trick to make a hit song anf as Roger Taylor and Dr. Brian May mentioned on one of the interviews nobody has the real formula for it. Adam worked with great songwriters and producers on his second album and yet Trespassing didn't connect with general public and radio. I don't think it was because of his sexual orientation. The songs didn't resonate with people.

Wow, all these comments and critical analysis about Adam's music, his single releases and his third album were unbelievable. I thought at times I was reading parts of a dissertation about Adam Lambert, the individual, and then the focus of his music. There seem to be a number of music critics and psychologists posting here(kidding). With such a deep analysis of his career and personal life providing all kinds of answers, some of you should work for the gov't and maybe help out with the fiscal crisis and other issues facing us. Seriously, such passion for Adam and his music has elicited 124 comments with more to come I am sure. I am a fan(don't get me wrong), but all these in depth comments, don't mean much in the overall picture since Adam Lambert will live his life as he chooses and will decide on the focus of his third album. We are all entitled to our opinions obviously, and it is very interesting to see such passion about this one individual who gets so many of us to comment about every aspect of his life, music and career. Here's hoping that the third album will one that gains him the recognition and success that he so deserves.
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Kickin In Gals and Fevergurls

Yay! You know what jugglenaut is without dragging me through the explanantion. You know why...because you are the jugglenaut! lol! You own more of the Jugglenaut haiku than I do...2 lines are yours as opposed to my 1 line! lol! Actually, I should include your name as one of the authors of the haiku. So I shall do it officially now, lol!

Jugglenaut haiku written by Kickin In Gals & Fevergurls!

Yea agree a lot about "go figure". I think somebody here may be suffering from depression without being aware and can also be brought on by excessive alcohol which gives mood swings, high as well as low. This is a known fact. That's not my business really, but she's venting it out on me and that's a No No! Anyway, thanks for liking our haiku! lol!

Lam-my

This used to be a FAN SITE...
ooops, sorry,
this used to be a FUN SITE...
LOL?

shaley,
I do agree with some of your comments about Johhny. However nice a guy he may be, he just doesn't come across as a trained professional dancer, just a club kid moving around on the stage.
I see comments about him on several blogs all saying the same thing, but I follow Adams twitter feed, and I've never seen a comment about him on there. Maybe its time for Adam to hear that many fans aren't that happy with him.
I saw Kylies Aphrodites tour a while back, she had about a dozen dancers on stage, all dressed like your sterotypical club gays, leather straps, extremely short tight leather shorts,bear chests, very provocative moves...can't remember hearing one person complaining about them being too gay...

p.s. I have no problem with people having differing opinions, I like us all having a good discussion on here as long as it can be done without all the name calling.

HK: I have seen comments about Johnny on other sites also. I think one of the reasons some don't post it on twitter (myself included) is there is a chance he will see it-& maybe we're afraid of hurting his feelings? He is Adam's friend, as is Terrance. The thing about Terrance tho, is he has a certain mix of prettiness & masculinity-as has Adam. He doesn't prance around the stage (as you said), acting all prissy. I just hope that with this next era, Adam will realize he doesn't need any dancers or backup singers. I prefer just him & his band. But once again-that's just my opinion;)

PS: Sorry if my 2:41pm post seemed a bit nasty-it's just that when I get bitten, I tend to bite back. Will try to refrain from the "name" calling in the future. It's not usually my style.

Oh my goodness Shaley, you ASKED to be bitten. I believe you said bring it on? Most doing so, at your request have been quite respectfully worded and even open minded, but I don't find the spirit of reciprocation in those regards on your end. I find you wanting to be "right", as in correct, despite your saying you believe firmly in good clean debate and discussion. others have offered you compliments of sorts, said they can see merit and validity in some of your points, but you've not offered the same in return much, not really ... To me you seem interested in arguing your position to the point of having blinders on, tho you accuse others of wearing them. Just how I see it, what can I say, sorry.

Hhhmmmm, funny Shaley because after reading and catching up ... name calling seems to be exactly your style (& labeling too, but what do I know, it's just a blog on the Internet, I know absolutely nothing of you, like glitzylady seems to, so please pardon my rush to judgement, carry on all :)).

I agree with Shaley 100%.

Uh, excuse me, but I don't appreciate the insinuation that I'm not supportive because I don't kiss someone's ass.
That is attacking personally, so I instinctively struck back, & I apologized. I hadn't attacked anyone personally up to that point, just stated my opinion. And where do you get the notion that I want to be "right"-is that because Im sticking to my opinion? I've said a few times that this is a good discussion, so obviously I must respect other's views. It's just not going to change mine. But you know, I think this has run it's course. It's been interesting, but I had no intent on it exculating into personal attacks & nastiness. And since it has, maybe it's better just to end this & agree to just disagree.

@ 7:40: If you had read any further, you would have seen that I apologized for the "name calling" (by that I mean the immature & delusional remarks). The stubborn remark I'm sticking with-sorry.

thank you for the clarification on the "delusional" thing ( because that was a little rough) as I thought you were talking about Johnny. I would actually like to reply further, but I seem to be, despite my utterly genuine attempt not to, be coming off snarky ... So we should probably do what you said above and agree to disagree. can't speak for all but I really truly tried to suggest points for contemplation without snark, and I've been sincerely digesting many offered here as well on my end I assure you. similarly I have reread every word here and I'll offer you a friendly challenge: I'll ruminate on my way of wording things if u'll do the same ... Because man 'o man Shaley, you've laid down some hot, sensitive, polarizing etc adjectives and such in the past few days. in any event, we'll move on. I have quite a few additional things, kind of severe things, I'd like to say and discuss but this site needs to get back to the fun (sorry y'all, I just couldn't keep quiet and let it go with what I was reading, so very sorry). tired now :). As I said, I am truly NOT one of those fans who think Adam does no wrong, I just talk about those sort of more critical things privately with my other Adam loving friend and not in the blogosphere ... as I figure, like Glitzylady wrote recently somewhere, Adam has enough shit thrown at him on a daily basis ... I figure he doesn't need an uber fan and follower like me adding to it on a public blog for all to read. Truce fellow fan :), agreeing to disagree and move onward and upward, just like Adam. Goodnight.

Oh hey hey, btw, we do have a commonality ... Yeah, I was wrong on the stubborn thing and you were correct IMHO, I was open to thinking about it further tonight and ou are right... What was I thinking?? ;). Lol

@8:58 pm: if you are sincere, I would love to continue this discussion. I just didn't want this turning into a sparring session or cat fight. To be honest, I was just getting so tired of peeps being afraid to express their opinions (as themselves) on forums for fear of being attacked. I've felt this way for quite some time now, so I figured I'd go ahead & just take the plunge. I am all for discussing things further if we can keep it civilized. Please continue your thoughts if you'd like. And don't worry about Adam seeing this-even if he does visit these forums-he knows full well what he's getting into-I am sure about that-lol!

I think that it's good that we have so much passion about Adam. I totally agree about Johnny and his unprofessional dancing. I think Adam needs to know that he's all we need and want on stage, unless he brings back his professional Glam Nation dancers (to be honest Taylor wasn't a good dancer, but he wasn't a distraction) and get rid of the background singers or get some that compliment his voice. Adam really needs to know how some of his fans feel, instead of watching them disappear one by one. Personally, I ain't going anywhere, unless Johnny stays...then that would be....torcher.

Agree with most of your sentiments, but even tho I dont agree with everything he does- I will stick with Adam thru the thick & the thin (& right now I think he's too thin... but I dare not go there-lol).

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